Posted on 12/19/2009 9:31:51 AM PST by is_is
>> If anyone has anything to say to lift my spirits, please do so.
That’s your responsibility. Hope that helps.
Let's put it this way, it was beyond legal. The Congress didn't know what to do with it, so they passed it along to the states. The states held their conventions. In effect, it was a revolution, as Patrick Henry described it:
Here is a revolution as radical as that which separated us from Great Britain.
And so, it came to pass. That doesn't mean we have to live with the mistakes of our forefather for eternity. At some point, we ought to correct the errors.
You continually mistake criticism for insult.
It is going to take more. But I was addressing sending email. Doesn’t work. Emails are easily deleted. Hard mail is much more annoying. :-)
And by the way, in practice, I am as pragmatic as the next guy. I voted for McCain, after all. I’m just looking at the big picture, for what it’s worth.
>That’s what I say. Collapse is our best hope, sadly.<
That is the last thing we want. If we have collapse, then they can take complete control and this will seem like a walk in the park. This is working up to it for sure, and will bring us to it.
But when it hits is when they can implement military control and have everything from camps to gulags.
I know you were. Forgive me...spent the day with a very good friend whose husband died today. Not a good day and then to come home and find out about this...just too, too much to absorb.
That's incorrect. They were assigned the task of amending the Articles. But they came prepared to replace them entirely with a national, consolidated government.
The fact that they came prepared just shows that the plan was already in the works. Anyone who has been in a corporate environment knows the drill. You get all your ducks in a row before you hold the meeting. You get buy in from the key political people. You do what you can to marginalize your foes, and then you try to ram it through.
King George III didn't authorize us to create a new government either.
That's an apt comparison, because what took place in Philly was a revolution.
and as you know, all thirteen of the states ratified the Constitution in accordance with the Articles, so why do you keep bringing this up?
Incorrect. The articles required unanimous consent of the states IN CONGRESS, and ratified by the state legislatures.
nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a Congress of the United States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.
As YOU know, the Congress didn't ratify the Constitution. They merely passed it off, not knowing what to do with it.
The state legislatures, AS YOU KNOW, did not ratify the Constitution. The legislatures were considered to lack the proper sovereignty to ratify the Constitution, because unlike a confederacy, which acted only on the states, the Constitution was a national government, which acted on the people directly. They therefore required state CONVENTIONS, representing THE PEOPLE, to ratify. It was all completely outside the scope and authority of the Articles.
God will never leave us, no matter how arrogant and ignorant we are.
However, I fear that he’s still going with this free will thing so we can keep mucking it up for a while yet.
I’m so sorry that it’s such a bad time for you. Maybe a couple days break is in order. I do that. Sometimes this is just too overwhelming.
Why in the world do people say that. Not going to happen.We do not want it to happen. It is silly to talk about it.
And so it came to pass that Huck can only p!ss on the memory of our framers and the greatest governing document ever devised, without mention of what he would specifically replace it with.
**Also, insurgency movements can do alot of damage against a superior military force, as we unfortunately witnessed in recent years in Iraq.**
You seriously believe that the liberals is going to have the same rules of engagement against conservatives as that they insisted on for moslem terrorists?
Will NBC News and the Washington Post highlight every supposed abuse as they did Abu Graub?
Is Iran’s and Venezuela’s military and police against their government?
You’re right. I retract.
Thank the Lord you weren’t there in 1776!
lol. From now on, I'm going to refer to you as TB. That's your new nickname. It stands for tedious and boring.
So now according to you our Constitution is illegal.
You are truly a foaming/spittle nutjob.
Excellent and truthful statement.
Still can’t provide a substitute form of government?
You have obviously thought about this for a long time. It is your hobby, right?
So what it the best form of government?
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