[21twelve]

Hey - didn't you post that last February?

And also in Spring of 2008?

This sunspot is a lot bigger though than those previous “Start of Cycle 24 Sunspots”. Yep, we'll see. Regardless, with the delay in getting started, Cycle 24 will probably have a much smaller maximum than the last few.

That should give us some cooling effects, along with some of the other cooling events at the moment (Pacific Decadal Oscillation is one, I think there is another something that is assisting cooling at the moment as well).

I just hope the cycle is low and doesn't drop off completely. Based on time cycles, we are due for another ice age. That would be a REAL drag.

[PapaBear3625]

On the other thread, we see that we're a bit overdue:

If the December averages don't end with an upswing, the NOAA model can probably be considered broken.