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1 posted on 12/14/2009 4:20:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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And now Reid has 60 votes. Wonderful.


89 posted on 12/14/2009 6:10:42 PM PST by pabianice
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The Medicare buy-in was never committed to paper for anyone outside Reid’s office to see. It was vaporware. But now it’s no longer in the bill. What kind of a victory is that?

Kinda like a store raising the price of an item by 20%, then advertising it for 20% off, making the price the same as it was.

Sheesh, is anybody tracking this thing as it progresses?


94 posted on 12/14/2009 6:50:54 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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Bull crap. Bull Crap BULL CRAP!
Bull crap. Bull Crap BULL CRAP!
Bull crap. Bull Crap BULL CRAP!
NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!
NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!
NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!

NO PUBLIC OPTION MEANS TRIGGER MEANS PUBLIC OPTION MEANS PUBLIC OPTION MEANS NATIONAL HEALTHCARE.

How stupid do we have to be to self-destruct the U.S.A.???

If this passes, that’s it. We don’t exist.


97 posted on 12/14/2009 6:57:47 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Lieberman said he can (read: will) vote for the bill without the public plan provisions... Kind of surprising that neither Snowe nor Collins defected to bail Reid out, eh? Now that he's back to 60-ish, I wonder if they or Nelson, Bayh, Lincoln, etc. will suddenly ramp up their own demands... there was a rumor floated earlier today that Emanuel was pressuring Reid to use reconciliation... Pelosi will almost certainly want to ping-pong the Senate bill. Will the absence of a public option convince Blue Dogs who voted no on the House bill to vote yes this time or will the gruesome polling scare them away?

101 posted on 12/14/2009 7:02:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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"all the stuff we wrote so hard for prevention and wellness in there"

Who the f do you think you are?

107 posted on 12/14/2009 7:26:51 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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OK, this is better but the only good option is to kill this travesty outright. When dealing with DemonRats and RINOs, the concessions always mysteriously disappear after the bill passes. Give these bastards an even chance, they’ll knife you every time. Outright defeat is the only acceptable outcome to this bill.


109 posted on 12/14/2009 7:46:06 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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lieberman doesn’t ‘win’ anyhting- He KNOWS fulkl welll it’s just goign to be written into the bill AFTER the bill passes- as will abortion, single payer etc etc etc- ANY RINO that goes along with htis bill or is swayed by ‘compromises’ and payoffs isn’t worthy of their office job


118 posted on 12/14/2009 8:26:18 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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The Kos Kiddies are calling Liebermann everything but a child of God. They are going Ape.


121 posted on 12/14/2009 8:30:36 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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I can hardly WAIT for 2010 to get rid of all these RATS!

This bill, if passed with ANY of it’s parts will be around
forever, and that’s all they are counting on!


122 posted on 12/14/2009 8:36:57 PM PST by luvie (Obama, the job-killer, has presided over the loss of 4.6 million jobs...and counting! RL)
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Other than the fact that this is still a bill that will destroy our economy and fundamentally change this country, destroying the best health care system in the world, this is GREAT news.... /sarc


124 posted on 12/14/2009 8:45:07 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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Lieberman wins, Senate drops Medicare buy-in

And America loses because the dims have a 60th vote.

126 posted on 12/14/2009 9:20:24 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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Get the vaseline ready, were are about to get screwed.


131 posted on 12/14/2009 9:46:21 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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So, what does the Democrats'-wet-dream bill do if it doesn't impose government run insurance on all Americans? This was their fondest desire.

Look for subterfuge. They will hide government-run insurance in the thousands of pages of this inane monstrosity - and the detractors won't be able to read the whole thing.

140 posted on 12/15/2009 4:31:35 AM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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The alternative will be worse.


143 posted on 12/15/2009 5:40:47 AM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
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They’re just putting more lipstick on the pig to shove it through.


147 posted on 12/15/2009 5:58:43 AM PST by jersey117
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I was watching Morning Joe a few minutes ago and heard Andrea Mitchell make one of the most hillarious and outrageous statements she’s ever uttered. She was actually praising Reid’s latest bill, no Medicare buy in, saying that even though the Senate’s bill contains no public option and lacks many other key provisions contained in the House’s more liberal bill that Pelosi will see to it that it clears the House because the Speaker “is the smartest and toughest politician in Washington.” Pelosi is the “smartest and toughest politician in Washington?” Wow, that’s a good one.


148 posted on 12/15/2009 6:04:45 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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That’s passage folks.

With the worst provisions gone, the mod Dems will vote for it.

Just hope for repeal in a couple years.


151 posted on 12/15/2009 6:44:55 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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No public option means it is dead in the House.


153 posted on 12/15/2009 7:15:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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There is no such thing as “dropping the public option!”

Its the reason for the whole shebang. They’ll just sneek it in with ‘trigger’ clauses.


162 posted on 12/15/2009 8:24:32 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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