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The Salvation Army - naughty or nice?
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/14/9 | Phil Bronstein

Posted on 12/14/2009 12:45:15 PM PST by SmithL

The halls aren't the only thing getting decked this holiday season.

The Salvation Army, the country's biggest charity, is taking it full on the chin from a social media network mobilized against the organization's position on homosexuality and other social sins. Twitter, Facebook and gay Web sites are lit up with protest and calls for donor boycotts.

The Army's official same-sex statement suggests it's unlikely those cheery volunteers ringing bells over red kettles will be donning gay apparel anytime soon.

While homosexuals are not "blameworthy," ... "Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex." The Army is an unabashedly evangelical, religious entity, after all, and has also resisted domestic partner benefits for its employees.

Last month, there was another stink about the Army's Houston division demanding to see Social Security cards of needy parents before providing toys for their kids. Angry protesters claimed this was discrimination against cardless illegal immigrants.

Before we take the predictable San Francisco, to-the-barricades view on all this, let's consider the Catholic concept of "proportionalism." This means (roughly, my interpretation) that bad conduct can be acceptable if a much greater good is being accomplished.

The Salvation Army served 33 million people in the United States last year. It raises about $2 billion a year and spends an impressive 89 percent of that on services - food, shelter, foster care and HIV programs.

It is a consistent and reliable disaster relief group.

"The first hand that reaches to pull you from the rubble of our next earthquake," Shea O'Neill wrote on the SFAppeal Web site last week, "will be the anti-gay hand of the Salvation Army."

There's no whitewashing their beliefs, if you oppose them, though the Army mission also is clear that its relief services are available to anyone "without regard to sexual orientation."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charity; christmas; gaystapo; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homosexualagenda; salvationarmy
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To: TheSuaveOne

No mad eup God here at all. You are in fact the Creation. God help you when you get to meet Him.


81 posted on 12/14/2009 1:17:30 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: SmithL

I helped rescue a gal from a sado-masochist many years ago, but I couldn’t put her up — it was the Salvation Army who ended up helping her. The “Captain”, as the man was known, he had a big old Victorian in Long Branch NJ and provided a shelter to many many of the strays of life.

Although they are not my religion, I always try and make a significant donation to them.


82 posted on 12/14/2009 1:17:36 PM PST by bvw
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To: SmithL

The Salvation Army is my chosen charity they give more to the needy then all of them. They don’t blow it all on big salaries, etc. Good for them I will now donate even more to them.


83 posted on 12/14/2009 1:17:51 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: gidget7

No sweetie. I just don’t feel it’s up to me or you to judge what someone else does in their bedroom.


84 posted on 12/14/2009 1:18:28 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne
“Jesus? He certainly wouldn’t have acted like many of the so-called Christian groups of today.”

That's probably true; many of the mainstream churches are more concerned with being politically correct than being true to Christ. You know the type, those that say homosexuality is natural and normal and God made it too....

The Salvation Army isn't one of THEM; it is following Christ's commandments every day!

85 posted on 12/14/2009 1:19:06 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: RoadGumby

ROFL. But what if He is gay? Oh noes...you’ll be in big trouble then.


86 posted on 12/14/2009 1:19:41 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne
And what if there is no God? Please stop projecting your moral code on others.

Funny how you said "if".

You call people names and then project your sin on others. Hilarious!

87 posted on 12/14/2009 1:20:00 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: TheSuaveOne

I have always found it interesting that the people who claim to understand what Jesus would do in any given situation are the ones who doubt or deny his existence and meaning.


88 posted on 12/14/2009 1:20:08 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: TheSuaveOne

They just view the practice of homosexual behavior as unnatural which it is and we should not endorse such behavior. Which we should not of course.


89 posted on 12/14/2009 1:22:09 PM PST by vicar7
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To: TheSuaveOne

Oh yes, lets plese not have that moral code. Whaaaa! I don’t want any limits on me, If it feels good, I wanna do it! Liberalism in a nutshell.


90 posted on 12/14/2009 1:22:33 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: goseminoles

when I was in my 20’s, had my first corporate job and was easily intimidated, I allowed myself to be bullied by HR into having money withheld from my tiny paycheck to go to the United Way.

The following year when they made their UW drive, I carefully read the fine print on the card (in which you checked off the charities you wished for your donations to go) and noticed that it basically stated that the UW would consider your choices but THEY would ultimately determine which charities needed the money the most. I gave NOTHING and was even scolded by one of the bullies in HR. I stated my case and she shut up. I have never given to the UW again.

My favorite charities are those which pair guide dogs with wounded veterans. A win/win combination, IMO.

I do try to always have a few bucks available to drop in the SA kettle when I see them.


91 posted on 12/14/2009 1:22:37 PM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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To: SmithL

There is nothing preventing the homos from doing some charity work themselves rather than shooting off their mouths as usual.


92 posted on 12/14/2009 1:23:18 PM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: SmithL

We have donated annually for 30 years and my parents before donated too. I passed this on to about 30 people by email and here is a response from a very successful friend who grew up very poor.

“Dittos from the Left Coast. We also donated for many years mainly because of how well I was treated when attending their child day care center in downtown KCMO as a 5-6 year old. Have always had a high respect for the individuals as well as the organization. Extra going in the donation envelope this year as well into their kettles.”


93 posted on 12/14/2009 1:23:26 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: TheSuaveOne

Suave, you are not so. Yes, yes, try ridicule (another lib tactic). Your life here in the US is as good as it is BECAUSE of the morals of society in the past and in spite of them (for the present anyway) now.


94 posted on 12/14/2009 1:23:59 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: frogjerk

What sin is that? And be careful before assuming to know something you don’t.


95 posted on 12/14/2009 1:24:05 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne

DUH, The Salvation Army, no church for that matter, or organization, or company, or govt office, or school, or court room, or my home for that matter, are their bedroom either!! Most couldn’t care less what goes on “in the bedroom BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS.


96 posted on 12/14/2009 1:25:27 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: TheSuaveOne
And what if there is no God? Please stop projecting your moral code on others.

2 Timothy 4:2 - Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine. For there shall be a time when they will not endure sound doctrine but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables.

97 posted on 12/14/2009 1:25:27 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: RoadGumby
Wow, somehow because I don't believe in your God...I'm a liberal. ROFL...brilliant.
98 posted on 12/14/2009 1:25:44 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: SmithL

I recall when I was in the Navy years ago, they forced us to give to the United Way. Yeah, you heard me right. We were forced to whether we wanted to or not.

Since then, I don’t give ANYTHING to the United Way. Not a single cent. I don’t know if they are crooked, but like another poster states, they give money to a lot of organizations I would be loathe to contribute to, and they keep more money than many others for overhead.

I give freely and often to the Salvation Army. When my brother-in-law’s house burned down on Christmas Eve (before he became my brother-in-law) The Salvation Army was there with cash...free cash, clothes, shelter and food, no strings attached.

Not the Red Cross. Not the United Way. The Salvation Army.


99 posted on 12/14/2009 1:26:32 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: TheSuaveOne
Bearing False Witness
100 posted on 12/14/2009 1:26:35 PM PST by frogjerk
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