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The Salvation Army - naughty or nice?
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/14/9 | Phil Bronstein

Posted on 12/14/2009 12:45:15 PM PST by SmithL

The halls aren't the only thing getting decked this holiday season.

The Salvation Army, the country's biggest charity, is taking it full on the chin from a social media network mobilized against the organization's position on homosexuality and other social sins. Twitter, Facebook and gay Web sites are lit up with protest and calls for donor boycotts.

The Army's official same-sex statement suggests it's unlikely those cheery volunteers ringing bells over red kettles will be donning gay apparel anytime soon.

While homosexuals are not "blameworthy," ... "Scripture forbids sexual intimacy between members of the same sex." The Army is an unabashedly evangelical, religious entity, after all, and has also resisted domestic partner benefits for its employees.

Last month, there was another stink about the Army's Houston division demanding to see Social Security cards of needy parents before providing toys for their kids. Angry protesters claimed this was discrimination against cardless illegal immigrants.

Before we take the predictable San Francisco, to-the-barricades view on all this, let's consider the Catholic concept of "proportionalism." This means (roughly, my interpretation) that bad conduct can be acceptable if a much greater good is being accomplished.

The Salvation Army served 33 million people in the United States last year. It raises about $2 billion a year and spends an impressive 89 percent of that on services - food, shelter, foster care and HIV programs.

It is a consistent and reliable disaster relief group.

"The first hand that reaches to pull you from the rubble of our next earthquake," Shea O'Neill wrote on the SFAppeal Web site last week, "will be the anti-gay hand of the Salvation Army."

There's no whitewashing their beliefs, if you oppose them, though the Army mission also is clear that its relief services are available to anyone "without regard to sexual orientation."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charity; christmas; gaystapo; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homosexualagenda; salvationarmy
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To: TheSuaveOne

That settles it, I like them more than ever now...........


41 posted on 12/14/2009 1:03:16 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Haha, Jesus? He certainly wouldn’t have acted like many of the so-called Christian groups of today.


42 posted on 12/14/2009 1:03:48 PM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne; ichabod1; gidget7
Dear TheSuaveOne:

Please stop projecting your pro homosexual agenda against the Salvation Army.

It's a church - a church which actually does GOOD.

They are bible based - can't you see that?

ichabod1;gidget7: Thank you for kindly attempting to correct this FReeper in his/her errors.

43 posted on 12/14/2009 1:03:48 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: SmithL

I’m going out this evening...I’ll make a point to locate and donate.


44 posted on 12/14/2009 1:04:10 PM PST by blam
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To: kalee

Do you think that you should not have had to pay?

It took my nephew five years to pay off his son’s NICU stay.


45 posted on 12/14/2009 1:04:19 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: SmithL

The fact that SF sees the Salvation Army is a ‘threat’ only motivates me more to always donate to SA and to always ignore UW.


46 posted on 12/14/2009 1:05:17 PM PST by kromike
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To: Republic

Any charts out there for Charities showing how much they raise vs what they give out? 89% sound great. What about the United Way or Red Cross?


47 posted on 12/14/2009 1:06:00 PM PST by tndarlin (If only the VRWC had ACORN, SOROS, SEIU, TIDES .....)
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To: SmithL

Just what is this ‘proportionalism’ that is mentioned here, in regards to the Catholic church?


48 posted on 12/14/2009 1:06:05 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: SmithL

so basically the militant homos would rather kids go hungry ...
nice.


49 posted on 12/14/2009 1:06:23 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: TheSuaveOne

Perhaps it is YOU, and folks like you, who are truly homophobic. Afraid to take a stand, afraid to utter a word of disagreement? For fear the big bad gay person my get mad at you?

If one fails to believe in, take a stand for, something, they will fall for anything. This is a conservative Christian principles website, perhaps you would be more comfortable elsewhere.


50 posted on 12/14/2009 1:06:59 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: TheSuaveOne

“Sure they do good things. It doesn’t change the fact that they are a homophobic organization.”

No one said you have to like queers.

I’ve donated extra to SA this year.


51 posted on 12/14/2009 1:07:10 PM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

great post

I learned a lot about the Army from my SIL’s grandmother who was a brigadier.
First class outfit and fully deserve our support.

It’s the Red Cross and United Way we need to be careful with.


52 posted on 12/14/2009 1:07:12 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: SmithL

They are the most reputable charity out there. I didn’t see it in the article but I believe they have the highest payout and lowest admin overhead.

Those bell ringers always bring a smile to my face.


53 posted on 12/14/2009 1:07:23 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: TheSuaveOne

“homophobic organization” Screw You!


54 posted on 12/14/2009 1:07:39 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: TheSuaveOne
“...they are a homophobic organization.”

That’s Queerspeak. If you mean they don’t condone homosexuality nor promote it, then yes they are that. If you mean “afraid of homosexuals”, they are not; they are Christ-centered.

55 posted on 12/14/2009 1:07:39 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: netmilsmom

No, I did not say that.


56 posted on 12/14/2009 1:07:40 PM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: TheSuaveOne

God will judge, but we are not silent. We are to speak out against sin and practicing homosexuality is one. Period. It is up to God to judge. To say “What you are doing is wrong” is not to judge.


57 posted on 12/14/2009 1:07:45 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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To: Leo Farnsworth

That is NEVER a problem, Leo, you and the SA are very welcome!


58 posted on 12/14/2009 1:08:31 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: TheSuaveOne
You are far more suave than the rest of us.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

59 posted on 12/14/2009 1:08:43 PM PST by SmithL (SARCHASM: The gulf between the maker of sarcastic wit and the person who just doesn't get it.)
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To: TheSuaveOne

Homophobic, nice try. There is no ‘phobia’ in volved, no fear, but a knowledge of right and wrong. Is this a bad thing?


60 posted on 12/14/2009 1:08:47 PM PST by RoadGumby (God did not evolve mankind from pond scum, but it might be easy to think that about liberals)
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