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To: markomalley

Indeed!

Which is it?

A warmer ocean (like a warm beer) will emit more CO2 to the atmospere than a colder ocean, but the “scientist” seems to think that “more” CO2 will be absorbed.

An cold ocean with more CO2 in solution will make it EASIER for coral and shell-forming animals to absorb the CO3 they need from the ocean.

Why, oh why, are climate “scientists” so ignorant of every other science?


16 posted on 12/14/2009 11:37:37 AM PST by pfony1
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To: pfony1

“A warmer ocean (like a warm beer) will emit more CO2 to the atmospere than a colder ocean, but the “scientist” seems to think that “more” CO2 will be absorbed.”

It depends more on the CO2 ratio in the atmosphere. We are under saturation levels for CO2 in the ocean, so this out-gassing effect wont really occur. This is particularly true because you have carbonate (HCO3-) in the oceans.


20 posted on 12/14/2009 11:50:26 AM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: pfony1
The logic is about partial pressures - the higher the partial pressure of a gas in air, the higher its concentration dissolved in liquid. This is a far greater effect than the saturation point change caused by a degree or two of temperature change. However, the whole thing all premised upon the notion of unbounded anthropogenic CO2 emissions with no natural adaptation, so it's hype either way. Life on earth was designed to adapt to changes. Bacteria reproduce every few HOURS. We're supposed to believe that they can't handle a change in acidity?
23 posted on 12/14/2009 11:52:39 AM PST by OldGuard1
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To: pfony1
The atmosphere can't warm the ocean appreciably because the heat capacity of the two systems is too vastly different. The oceans are the systems heat sink and can suck up every extra calorie they can find in their most ridiculous projections without warming even one degree.
33 posted on 12/14/2009 12:00:06 PM PST by JasonC
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To: pfony1

Yep, nature loves equilibrium. You can’t force the ocean to absorb more gas by just having more gas in the air. The ocean will always absorb a specific amount of gas according to its temperature and the outside air pressure.

However, if the available gas has a higher concentration of CO2, then the ocean should absorb more CO2 than before, and have a corresponding lower oxygen and nitrogen concentration.

But do realize that the change recorded so far is .075 pH since the 1700s. This is a very, very tiny fraction of the difference in pH between orange and lemon juice. And over such a span of time I’d be careful of blaming it on one specific factor given the complexity of ocean systems and our limited understanding of it.


41 posted on 12/14/2009 12:35:00 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: pfony1

“Why, oh why, are climate “scientists” so ignorant of every other science?”

I have always wondered about that. It almost appears as if the GW researchers are programmers that lost their jobs during the DotCom blowout. Just chucking data in to the ‘chines and tailoring their output to the highest bidder. Customer service, dontcha know.


49 posted on 12/14/2009 4:29:30 PM PST by texmexis best
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