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Back from combat, women struggle for acceptance
AP via Yahoo ^ | 14 Dec 2009 | KIMBERLY HEFLING

Posted on 12/14/2009 9:15:22 AM PST by US Navy Vet

Nobody wants to buy them a beer.

Even near military bases, female veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't often offered a drink on the house as a welcome home.

More than 230,000 American women have fought in those recent wars and at least 120 have died doing so, yet the public still doesn't completely understand their contributions on the modern battlefield.

For some, it's a lonely transition as they struggle to find their place.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: combat; militarywomen; oefveterans; oifveterans; women; womenincombat
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To: wardaddy

No, I’m not proposing that there are any civilization that won a war utilizing women to any great extent in battle. No, I’m not stating I support woman on the front lines. Apparently my having said this before didn’t register?


61 posted on 12/14/2009 11:00:16 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I routinely buy anyone in uniform lunch, dinner or a drink.

Ditto. The only place I've not been able to do that was in NYC, during Fleet Week, after 9-11.

No one in a uniform paid for anything, anywhere, as far as I could see. I stopped trying to pick up tabs after the first 1/2 dozen or so times.

There were a good bunch of sailors, and more than a few Marines, sporting some serious hangovers after that particular port of call. :-)

62 posted on 12/14/2009 11:02:35 AM PST by wbill
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To: SoldierDad

Just because you have kids in the service DOES NOT make YOU qualified to comment and ANYTHING military. I have one son in the USMC and I am 20 year retired military and have seen what works and what don’t so yes, I AM QUALIFIED!


63 posted on 12/14/2009 11:02:58 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet
I do not believe women belong in combat.

That said, there are women who have served who had combat come to them, and who did not fold and collapse, but fought back. For that, they do not deserve snickers and remarks about their sexuality. They deserve the same respect a man would receive with the same experience.
64 posted on 12/14/2009 11:05:27 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: US Navy Vet

I will gladly buy any one of them a beer, and spit on the Man that won’t.


65 posted on 12/14/2009 11:05:39 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: PzLdr

Welcome Home Brother!


66 posted on 12/14/2009 11:07:54 AM PST by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: US Navy Vet

And, you are yelling at me because????? So, my time in the USAF means, what? My father’s service during Korea means, what? My brothers 8 years with the Army Ranger’s means, what? My father-in-law, who just passed away at age 86, who served during WWII means, what? The seven members of my family who together served 12 years in the Middle East since 9/11/01 means, what? Ours is a Miltary family - has been since before the Revolutionary War.

Thank you for your service to the USMC and the United States of America for 20 years


67 posted on 12/14/2009 11:08:22 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: Nepeta

Some women had combat come to them.

* * * * *

Like Kim Munley at Ft. Hood last month. She acquitted herself pretty well.


68 posted on 12/14/2009 11:15:05 AM PST by LussaO
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To: SoldierDad

OK NOW you are qualified to comment. See it wasn’t that hard was it. You time in the USAF makes you qualified. My dad was a WW II Infantry Vet (Pacific/Philippines) as well. My nephew(Grad West Point) is in the ME right now. My other son id a US Navy vet as well. My other nephew is a Nuke in Norfolk.


69 posted on 12/14/2009 11:15:53 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: cotton

MOS and TIME IN COUNTRY, the only round eyes we saw were behind a fence. Welcome Home Sister.


70 posted on 12/14/2009 11:19:44 AM PST by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: US Navy Vet

God Bless all of them. Just because I’m curious, why did you go off on me? What comment did I make that got stuck in your craw?


71 posted on 12/14/2009 11:21:33 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: LussaO
“Like Kim Munley at Ft. Hood last month. She acquitted herself pretty well.”

But do recall, for accuracy, that it was her partner that took down the bad guy, not, as media hype had everyone belief, her. Not to diminish her actions, but PC-reporting is an insult to all.

72 posted on 12/14/2009 11:26:26 AM PST by Hulka
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To: US Navy Vet
With all this past pedigree of wars and service past, what do you all think the WWII and Korea, and VN vets would say about this push for females on the front-line?

Just wondering.

73 posted on 12/14/2009 11:29:39 AM PST by Hulka
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To: SoldierDad

From your comments and your about me page I thought that you were yout typical know nothing military parent. If you are former military then DAMMIT put it on your about me FreeP Page. BE PROUD! WILD BLUE YONDER!


74 posted on 12/14/2009 11:30:07 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: driftdiver

Yuck. . .thanks. . . .

;-(


75 posted on 12/14/2009 11:31:45 AM PST by Hulka
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To: US Navy Vet

Okay, I understand. But, I must confess. While I’m proud of my service in the USAF, I have tended to downplay that, especially given that I never served in a combat theatre (though my MOS in the USAF was one of the few that required carrying a weapon - Security Police). I uphold those who have had boots on the ground and have had to dodge bullets and bombs, and seen their friends ripped apart in battle (my son lost two from an IED). I spent my time providing security for B-52’s, KC-135 Tankers, and the WSA at Minot AFB - little threat up there during the mid to late 70’s to early 80’s - or even now for that matter - unless of course you count the prairie dogs).


76 posted on 12/14/2009 11:37:49 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: Hulka
I am a Viet Nam vet, Army Infantry. I think that most American men of my time, thought of women as protected creatures or depositories.

None wanted them, of either class, exposed to how bad combat can be. The John Wayne idea of a neat little hole is a fallacy.

77 posted on 12/14/2009 11:42:29 AM PST by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: SoldierDad

What you did was D*MN important!


78 posted on 12/14/2009 11:48:33 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Thank you for that. Still, I tip my hat to those who have seen the worse of humankind while fighting in a combat theatre. And, to all who made the Military a career. It is not an easy life, and, it is because of people like you that Americans have had their freedoms and liberties made safe - I just hope and pray that the tradition will be able to continue.


79 posted on 12/14/2009 11:55:38 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: SoldierDad

I slept pretty damn well knowing that there were people like you guarding those Bombers, Tankers and Nuke Missiles! Thank You for a good night’s sleep!


80 posted on 12/14/2009 11:57:57 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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