Back from combat, women struggle for acceptance

AP via Yahoo ^ | 14 Dec 2009 | KIMBERLY HEFLING

[US Navy Vet]

Nobody wants to buy them a beer.

Even near military bases, female veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't often offered a drink on the house as a welcome home.

More than 230,000 American women have fought in those recent wars and at least 120 have died doing so, yet the public still doesn't completely understand their contributions on the modern battlefield.

For some, it's a lonely transition as they struggle to find their place.

[driftdiver]

“Perhaps, then, any future wars must only be fought in locations where there are no women present?”

Or we could not put our women on the truck or plane over to the conflict.

[SoldierDad]

Ah, then it is only “our” women you oppose to being on the battlefield or near it. Got it.

[driftdiver]

“Ah, then it is only “our” women you oppose to being on the battlefield or near it. Got it.”

Well yes, I don’t think we should allow women from other countries into our military. Just as a general rule, if they want to immigrate thats a different matter.

[SoldierDad]

And, what, if anything, are you proposing to do about women who are on or near the battle field of wars fought in other countries?

[driftdiver]

“And, what, if anything, are you proposing to do about women who are on or near the battle field of wars fought in other countries?”

You’re mixing apples and oranges. This thread was about American women who serve in the military not about people living in a war torn area.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

from an outside - VERY outside observer - combat seems to have so many aspects, that it’s hard for me to believe that they have nothing to offer. I don’t know - maybe a chopper pilot? I’m not being sarcastic for once - maybe it is something reasonable. As for HAVE to have a place in combat - absolutely not - no one has to. I believe, thru no experience - that there are many jobs many type of people may be able to earn. But I’ve been wrong before...

[driftdiver]

IMHO the problem with having women in combat is not due to performance. Although there are famous cases of women promoted because of their gender who ended up killing themselves.

You men and women tend to do more than work when in close contact for months on end.

Where are we as a society when we take women from their babies and throw them against our enemies?

[hocndoc]

Proud of you and for you. Thank you!

[Beamreach]

All i know is that my nice (3rd generation Marines) is coming back from iraq in Feb. (God willing) and i am going to buy her a beer. she could have got out of going. but she stepped up to the plate and went

[driftdiver]

And Bless her and your family.

[swmobuffalo]

“I thought that you were yout typical know nothing military parent.”

Lot of military parents would find that offensive, me included.

[Nepeta]

Better to think about how male soldiers cannot fight to their full abilities with women around. Every woman in Germany unfortunate enough to full under the Russian invasion was raped. America women should think about how best they can help men in or near combat instead of demanding the jobs for themselves under a misguided Feminist influence.

Too bad Germany had gun control laws and these women could not begin to defend themselves. I'm familiar with the treatment of German women by Russian troops.

I cannot imagine this happening in a hypothetical invasion of the US. Lots of American women have taken steps to NOT be hapless victims.

[Patriotic1]

What type of mindset?

[Nepeta]

Why do you want women to make sacrifices in war? It makes women bitter and scared. Why do you think, after WWII, they turned to government for support instead of the men coming home from war? Feminism has killed 60 million unborn babies and destroyed the family and modesty. Women don’t even want to raise their own kids anymore.

Women are citizens, too. They have responsibilities as well as rights. Don't we all?

Feminism in this country did not begin in earnest until the mid-1960s, 20 years after the end of WW2.

[Nepeta]

“They instead brought in foreign slave labor, unmotivated to produce and highly motivated to sabotage whenever possible. “

And despite that it was strategic decisions that cost them the war and not a broken gun.

They did a number of unwise things. They built great planes, but their quality standards were too tight for mass production of the numbers of different models they attempted to field. [A few years ago I saw a presentation at Wright Patterson that included film of German aerodynamic tests of models that looked very like Concorde. They did some amazing stuff.]

The development and deployment of the V-2 was particularly hampered by the fact of its manufacture by starving slave labor.

[wardaddy]

LOL...hear hear buddy.

Lord to read this garbage on a conservative forum.

[driftdiver]

I’m thinking of changing my tagline to “i lost my guns in a terrible fishing accident”

Most of these guys would not send their wife or daughter outside to stop a thief, but they have no qualms about sending someone elses wife or daughter.

[US Navy Vet]

I don’t really WHAT YOU find “offensive”.

[US Navy Vet]

care

[donna]

Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Feminism...

“The place of the family as a shut-in petty enterprise was to be occupied, according to the plans, by a finished system of social care and accommodation: maternity houses, creches, kindergartens, schools, social dining rooms, social laundries, first-aid stations, hospitals, sanatoria, athletic organizations, moving-picture theaters, etc. The complete absorption of the housekeeping functions of the family by institutions of the socialist society...”

- Leon Trotsky, 1879-1940 -