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To: verga
"I am sorry to be the one to say this, he got exactly what he deserved. When an officer of the law tells you to do something you do it. Protest later to his superiors if you feel your rights have been violated, but you comply first and complain later."

Say,how did that work out for the Jews in the 1930s and 40s?

Yeah,I know this isn't Nazi Germany or Communist Country X ,but freedoms disappear when people no longer stand up for them.

And just exactly why should any person be deprived of all rights,including the right to know why his person or belongings are being searched,simply because you or the "authorities" want the people cowed and ignorant?

Upholding rights and freedoms of people we don't particularly like is the test of whether we believe in those things as a principle or just for people in our special group.Too many people fail the test.

I wonder if such a compliant populace was envisioned by T. Jefferson and company?

38 posted on 12/12/2009 10:52:35 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham

I know the constitution gives full powers to the federal government to search, detain, seize and tax items entering or leaving the country. I have no right to privacy of my person or my property at a border crossing. Searching my property and person with or without a reasonable suspicion that I am smuggling something is the federal government’s right under the constitution, in this situation.

Do the same pretty much anywhere else, and you’d best have a good reason and if you don’t, you can expect resistance from myself.


44 posted on 12/12/2009 11:03:53 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: hoosierham
I wonder if such a compliant populace was envisioned by T. Jefferson and company?

The Constitution gives the Federal Government the authority to search, seize, and tax items entering or leaving the country. And since Jefferson was one of the contributors to the document in question, I'd have to say not just yes, but Hell yes.

I am certain that you have read many of the other posts that agree with and support my position, might be time to back away slowly with your hands in clear view offering your "Mea Culpas".

47 posted on 12/12/2009 11:32:21 AM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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