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Young Latinos seem to face a tougher future
LA Times ^ | December 11, 2009 | Anna Gorman

Posted on 12/11/2009 4:35:24 AM PST by La Lydia

Latinos...are more likely than other young people to drop out of school and live in poverty, according to a new Pew Hispanic Center study. The study, based on a survey of more than 1,200 Latinos ages 16 to 25, presents a portrait of the assimilation of a rapidly growing segment of the U.S. population, one that will have a significant effect on the nation's politics and economics in coming years. Young Latinos make up 18% of all young people in the nation and 42% in California.

About one-third of young Latinos are immigrants, but two-thirds are born in the U.S. Many are the children of immigrants who began arriving in the U.S. in 1965.

"If you want to understand what America is going to be like in the 21st century, you need to have understanding of how today's young Latinos, most of whom are not immigrants, will grow up," said Paul Taylor, director of the Pew Hispanic Center. ...

That could raise concerns in some areas. About one-quarter of all young Latinas have a child by age 19, a rate higher than whites, Asians and blacks. About 17% of Latinos drop out of school -- nearly double the rate among blacks. And about 23% of young Latinos live in poverty -- higher than whites but lower than blacks...

The findings also raise questions about identity. More than half of the young people identify themselves first by their family's native country. Among those born in the U.S., 33% say they are American first, and 41% identify themselves by their parents' homeland...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegals; peasants
What could possibly go wrong as a result of allowing your state, California, or your country to be overrun by illiterate Third World peasants?
1 posted on 12/11/2009 4:35:24 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Quick, someone earmark $10 or $20 billion out of Obama’s Stimulus II for midnight basketball and multilingual education. That ought to fix the problem.
2 posted on 12/11/2009 4:41:25 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: La Lydia
Head 'em up...move 'em out!

Rollin' rollin' rollin'

3 posted on 12/11/2009 4:44:31 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: La Lydia
Many are the children of immigrants who began arriving in the U.S. in 1965.

Hmmm what else happened in 1965?

4 posted on 12/11/2009 4:45:38 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Could it be....Senator “Splash” Kennedy’s 1965 immigration “reform” bill?


5 posted on 12/11/2009 4:48:48 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia
Young Latinos seem to face a tougher future

While it isn't necessarily their fault, look at the influences on these kids and determine if they are following the pattern: The majority of young Hispanics are lured into criminal enterprises at an early age - their stereotypical appearance on TV and movies portrays them as thugs, thieves, gang bangers and drug runners. They are trapped in poor neighborhoods and forced into our horrible public schools which are dedicated to creating a permanent second class comprised primarily of Hispanics and blacks.

They mostly live in Hispanic areas of any metropolitan area, so they grow up insulated from exposure to influences that are anathema to thugs, thieves, gang bangers and drug runners. IOW, they don't know anything else. Most of them are angry at a system they believe is biased against them and they "act out" as a result.

They have no clue that they are partially to blame for their own situation because they lack both the education and English skills requisite for success in America. Without exposure to any positive influences that open their eyes to the possibilities in this country, they are condemned to repeat the behavioral patterns of their parents and peers.

I'm not defending anything about the Hispanic invasion of America, but I'm pointing out that, given the cultural and educational influences on these kids, their futures are determined pretty much at birth. While I feel for them, the question must still be asked: Is America responsible for improving the conditions (and, therefore, the future) for these kids, many of whom are the progeny of the illegal invasion of our country?? If we were to take proactive steps to improve their lives, would it be at the expense of legal, native-born American kids?? If we take it down to pure dollars and cents, are we paying more for them NOW, knowing that their future is likely going to be in crime and prison, or would it cost us more to try to address the problems when they are very young and try to expose them to positive influences and alternate choices??

6 posted on 12/11/2009 5:28:06 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment
The fact is, we, American taxpayers that is, have attempted to provide them with a free education, and education they would have had very little chance of obtaining had their parents remained in their native hell holes. That education included the positive influences you say they are lacking. The ones who we are supposed to feel sorry for rejected that free education -- which is a first class ticket into the middle class -- and also rejected the positive influences it entailed. How much more are we supposed to do for these people?

Why Mexican illegals are driving America "cuckoo": Why doesn't Mexico take care of its own people? Why do they instead encourage their poor to leave Mexico and invade the United States? Nature provides a parallel that is instructive. Some species of birds thrive not by carefully rearing their own young, but by pawning that task off on adults of other species. The European Cuckoo, whose distinctive call is immortalized in the sound of the "cuckoo clock," is the bird in which this habit has been most thoroughly studied. Female European Cuckoos lay their eggs only in the nests of other species of birds. A cuckoo egg usually closely mimics the eggs of the host (one of whose eggs is often removed by the cuckoo). The host may recognize the intruding egg and abandon the nest, or it may incubate and hatch the cuckoo egg. Shortly after hatching, the young European Cuckoo, using a scoop-like depression on its back, instinctively shoves over the edge of the nest any solid object that it contacts. With the disappearance of their eggs and rightful young, the foster parents are free to devote all of their care to the young cuckoo. Frequently this is an awesome task, since the cuckoo chick often grows much larger than the host adults long before it can care for itself. One of the tragicomic scenes in nature is a pair of small foster parents working like Sisyphus to keep up with the voracious appetite of an outsized young cuckoo.

7 posted on 12/11/2009 5:36:04 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: DustyMoment

Yes, they face a tougher future because they choose an easier now.

This country is the land of opportunity. It has more opportunity for poor people than any other place on the planet. Instead of taking advantage of it they’re turning this country into a 3rd world one.

Comp[are them with the boat people who came here with no money and no language skills. As a Freeper said many years ago, “They come here with only the shirt on their back and with a few years their kids are in college, they’re driving a BMW and they own a couple of nail salons.”


8 posted on 12/11/2009 5:46:12 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: La Lydia
The fact is, we, American taxpayers that is, have attempted to provide them with a free education, and education they would have had very little chance of obtaining had their parents remained in their native hell holes.

Have you ever been in a public school today, La? Have you seen what passes for "education"? Thanks to Kennedy's NCLB, kids today are being taught how to pass the various government-required state assessment tests instead of being taught history, math, English, or science. They have no clue what is in the Constitution, or even who or how this country was founded. They have been "taught" that America is a racist bully whose sole goal in the world is world domination and subjugation of all the world's people.

They have no clue about the greatness of the country or the generosity of Americans. They can't read, speak or construct a comprehensible thought in English. They fall for idiotic leftist conspiracies such as "chemtrails" from jet aircraft because they are clueless about basic science.

There are many reasons why Hispanics in America are destined to never succeed, and the education system is certainly one of them.

9 posted on 12/11/2009 5:54:31 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

I have never been in a public school. I have, however, been paying taxes to support them my entire adult life and I know some decent, god-fearing public school teachers who are trying their best to help kids like this. But it seems to me that, while what you say is probably true, there are many, many kids (whites, Hispanics, blacks, Asians, other) attending public schools who get enough out of it to pull themselves up to the middle class.


10 posted on 12/11/2009 6:01:01 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: DustyMoment

Well, you’ve outlined how we Americans have failed Hispanics. I agree, it is our fault. Our free services are too free. We did too much. We did too little.

When did they become my burden, anyway?

You know what I really want to know, though? Who is failing them in their own countries? We Whites must have incredible influence.


11 posted on 12/11/2009 6:10:52 AM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

You can lead a horse to water, but you can not make him drink. We are going to have a lot of thirsty horses demanding the gringos fork over their stuff in the future.


12 posted on 12/11/2009 10:04:39 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Spike Knotts
Well, you’ve outlined how we Americans have failed Hispanics. I agree, it is our fault.

Whoa, whoa, whoa!!! I outlined the problem and why they are falling into these situations. Please point out to me where I said that WE failed them.

What I was trying to do was instigate an intelligent discussion, NOT open up a whole blame America, thread.

13 posted on 12/11/2009 10:29:18 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment; Spike Knotts

I think Spike was posting with his tongue firmly embedded in his cheek. ;^)


14 posted on 12/11/2009 10:33:00 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: La Lydia
I have never been in a public school.

Therein lies the problem, La. I have; I attended them when I was younger and our public schools still provided a decent education, and I have been in them as a substitute teacher and seen first-hand how crappy they have become.

The majority of "teachers" who show up at public schools are people who don't want to teach and are constrained by government influence under NCLB from teaching anything other than the standard assessment test that anyone but an utter moron couldn't pass. What passes for most (NEA) "teachers" today are people who want a steady paycheck, summers off, little to no responsibility and few obligations.

And that, in a nutshell, is what we got!!

15 posted on 12/11/2009 10:35:48 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ladyjane
Yes, they face a tougher future because they choose an easier now.

Again, my point was to highlight the fact that, given the environment most of these young Hispanics are in, the outcome is predefined. I didn't say America sucks and we should bend over backward to give them everything they can't get either through theft or whining. My intent was to open an intelligent discussion that looks at both sides of the issue.

It isn't necessarily the fault of the kids that they are in the situation they are in. By the same token, I don't think that we need to necessarily change what we have done or add to the services we are already providing them for free.

HOWEVER, at what point do THEY have to take responsibility for themselves?? At what point should WE step in to expose them to alternatives that can get them out of their predictable life and into something that is better and more productive and doesn't involve either lawyers, police, or jail??? Therein lies the crux of the problem we AND they face.

16 posted on 12/11/2009 10:46:29 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Night Hides Not

Thanks. I recognized the dripping sarcasm, but the underlying tone concerned me.


17 posted on 12/14/2009 9:42:11 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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