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To: Blue Turtle
Its amazing when one gets all the intel and finally concedes that Bush was right.

Bush, the author of the worsening Afghan quagmire, was right? A better answer is that BOTH Bush and Obama are wrong.

10 posted on 12/10/2009 9:21:42 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

I really don’t think there is an Afghan “quagmire”

All the Vietnam metaphors are part of a discursive community that taught and raised Obama to believe that America is always wrong.

As in Vietnam, we have not lost any military engagements with the Taliban or Al Qaeda sympathizers. Anti War zealots of all stripes simply define the pragmatics of Afghan politics as failure because we don’t see disneyland in Kabul.

Every year, we are treated to the ‘in the spring, the Taliban will rise up . . .”

If we want to crush them, we will. It is purely an internal conversation with our own public sphere. If we choose to leave, then the Taliban can return to power. Its pretty simple.

The Anti War lefties now have larger megaphones in that conversation within the administration. They never want America to win in an international setting.


13 posted on 12/10/2009 9:47:45 AM PST by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: Captain Kirk

I really don’t think there is an Afghan “quagmire”

All the Vietnam metaphors are part of a discursive community that taught and raised Obama to believe that America is always wrong.

As in Vietnam, we have not lost any military engagements with the Taliban or Al Qaeda sympathizers. Anti War zealots of all stripes simply define the pragmatics of Afghan politics as failure because we don’t see disneyland in Kabul.

Every year, we are treated to the ‘in the spring, the Taliban will rise up . . .”

If we want to crush them, we will. It is purely an internal conversation with our own public sphere. If we choose to leave, then the Taliban can return to power. Its pretty simple.

The Anti War lefties now have larger megaphones in that conversation within the administration. They never want America to win in an international setting.


14 posted on 12/10/2009 9:47:48 AM PST by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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