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To: mnehring
Simple chemicals combining by way of electrons being shifted around.

Yet there is still a large leap from simple chemicals to actual life.

Plus, there must be, by definition, a large amount of extra material to compensate for 'mistakes' should an improper combination be made.

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Please understand I'm not trying to tell you you're incorrect, it just seems that mathmatically, the right combinations occuring at the right time under exactly the right circumstances receiving the exact amount of electricity required to even begin life would be, well, astronomical.

Just MHO, of course.

198 posted on 12/10/2009 2:25:14 PM PST by MamaTexan (If man evolved from apes, why do we still have apes?)
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To: MamaTexan
Yet there is still a large leap from simple chemicals to actual life.

Plus, there must be, by definition, a large amount of extra material to compensate for 'mistakes' should an improper combination be made.

1. Absolutely, what I posted was just the first part, albeit the most important. The formation of amino acids. Those form into proteins. Once you have these basic items, the best analogy I can think of is a magnet, it starts the process of gathering chemicals like a magnet attracts metals. Those chemicals it combines with combine, etc. 2. You are correct, which is why all of the oxygen, water, hydrogen, etc, all around you haven't turned into amino acids. It is a very unique occurrence with specific conditions.

..it just seems that mathmatically, the right combinations occuring at the right time under exactly the right circumstances receiving the exact amount of electricity required to even begin life would be, well, astronomical.

Absolutely, the probability is low, but not impossible. However, if we can figure these things out and reproduce it in the 1950s, less than 60 years after we were riding around on horses and going to the bathroom in outhouses, that perspective kind of makes you look at the 'astronomical' nature of the circumstances a little differently.

199 posted on 12/10/2009 2:31:37 PM PST by mnehring
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To: MamaTexan
Unless it's happening a an astronomical number of locations.

The number of atoms is more than man can fathom.
The number of grams of an element equal to it's atomic weight (12g for carbon 12, e.g.)contains 6x10^23 atoms of that element. This number is known as Avagadro’s number.

203 posted on 12/10/2009 2:35:07 PM PST by Wacka
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