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To: jimt
I in no way limit God. I cannot. God's Word tells us how creation unfolded and contrary to Darwinism tells us man has fallen not become perfected or advanced.
Now if this is some sort of metaphor for evolution then we must conclude what the rest of God's Word says about man's condition must also be some sort of metaphor. Or simply the pious but erroneous thoughts of the writers.

Evolution is by it's own descriptions materialistic and without the need to refer to any creator god at all.

Limit God? Not at all, He can do as He wishes and that is beside the point of what He DID do. What is difficult to understand is why suggest God used evolution if evolutionary theory has an explanation for the existence of all things including man and, moreover, says it can explain all characteristics of man's makeup, conscience, religious feelings, altruism, morality, on and on.

Why do you try to put God in the theory of evolution?

144 posted on 12/10/2009 1:30:21 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Last time I set you straight on this one..

"Darwin's Evolution is by it's own descriptions materialistic and without the need to refer to any creator god at all."

Old Chuck has been dead a long time. the science and the theory have **evolved** a great deal, much like the airplane and the telephone.

So next time you go flying off on this old canard, call someone who cares.

154 posted on 12/10/2009 1:38:11 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: count-your-change
If you are not limiting God, then God could have used evolution in His creation.

I was discussing this with demshateGod. I said men wrote the Bible, he (or she) said men penned the Bible. Ok, let's take it as penned.

When creation was described to the man who penned it, was God going to get into particle physics, the Big Bang (Let there be light!), the techniques he used to create grass and herbs yielding seed, then creatures of the water, then birds, and so on in biological terminology ?

No, God would have described it in an intelligible manner. Why communicate it in a way that could not be understood ?

Why would God use evolution ? Why did God create gravity ? Or electromagnetic radiation ?

I would say because it's a natural part of His creation, following from the natural laws He established.

Evolution is by it's own descriptions materialistic and without the need to refer to any creator god at all.

That's because evolution attempts to explain what happened, not who did it, or how, or why. Evolution in no way precludes God - it can't.

Regarding man as fallen - man had no knowledge of good or evil originally. Thus it was impossible for man to sin - except in one way. When Adam and Eve ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they disobeyed God - the original sin. That was the "fall".

Evolution doesn't talk about sin - it talks about biologically successful organisms. It doesn't say we're "perfected" or even "advanced", it says we're biologically successful.

...if evolutionary theory has an explanation for the existence of all things including man and, moreover, says it can explain all characteristics of man's makeup, conscience, religious feelings, altruism, morality, on and on.

It doesn't have an explanation for the existence of all things. It purports to tell us what happened in earth's history. Not who, or how or why. As to all the characteristics of man's makeup, I've never heard any evolutionary theory explaining all that - or even attempting to.

Why do you try to put God in the theory of evolution?

Because God could have done it that way, building His creation so as to follow His laws.

206 posted on 12/10/2009 2:40:29 PM PST by jimt
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