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Treason At Copenhagen
examiner.com ^ | December 8, 2009 | Robert Ditmar

Posted on 12/09/2009 12:41:57 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

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To: green iguana; NoObamaFightForConservatives
Re: Obama can sign whatever treaty he wants. It will not be binding until ratified

Hum ... is that really the case? It appears to me that Zero can use the EPA and his world-gov-sky-is-falling climate appointees to enact a whole lot by executive order. Remember, the EPA can (i) tax, (ii) fine, (iii) assess "fees".

Additional thought - who has "standing" to haul Zero in front of the Supreme Court? Zero has already stated that he believes the US Constitution is flawed ... he advertises that he is a "constitutional expert" (/barf alert)

Question - could Zero get away with sending TARP "left overs" to Copenhagen?

Finally, will Europe let the USA off the hook once Zero signs? (After all, Zero wants only to be "loved") (/sarc)

21 posted on 12/09/2009 1:29:57 PM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: green iguana
It is a long article you probably missed this part.

Under the Treaty Clause in Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, the President of the United States is only empowered to make treaties with other nations only after obtaining the consent of a two-thirds supermajority of the United States Senate. This has not yet happened, nor will it before Obama goes to Copenhagen with the EPA declaration. Yet the Obama administration has indicated that the President will sign a binding treaty which will force the U.S. to commit to a twenty percent reduction in carbon emissions by 2020. Of course, the socialist European climate scammers are excited by Obama’s arrival in Copenhagen armed with bureaucratic, top-down command-style regulation rather than a legitimate mandate based on Congressional legislation. After all, they are unelected power-hungry bureaucrats who are excited to see this president doing everything in his power to literally destroy the liberty, sovereignty and power of the United States from within.

22 posted on 12/09/2009 1:30:11 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: green iguana

It depends on what the definition of it, is. We are dealing with a lawyer (NO MORE LAWYERS AS POTUS!!!) If they call it an ‘agreement,’ Obama can use his Executive Order powers as well as his false messiah powers to sign all legal eagle and no one can touch him; yet we will be in contractual treaty.

See post # 22.


23 posted on 12/09/2009 1:37:13 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) made the announcement this week that it has declared carbon dioxide (CO2) and five other gases as “a danger to human health,”

I think we should sue the EPA on behalf of all of the trees in the world for the above statement.

zero CO2 = zero trees = global warming


24 posted on 12/09/2009 1:37:13 PM PST by anonsquared
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To: anonsquared

I agree a huge class action suit. Im in.Add Gore to the names just for his jet carbon footprints as they bash the cows for farting.

1 biiiiiiiiilion dollars.


25 posted on 12/09/2009 1:43:14 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Tar - feathers - rail car...


26 posted on 12/09/2009 1:43:20 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Socialism is hip until somebody loses a paycheck)
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Just who is Zero's Climate Czar

Carol Browner, energy czar

1. listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change

2. ran the EPA under President Clinton; she was on the board of directors for the National Audubon Society, the League of Conservation Voters, the Center for American Progress and former Vice President Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection

27 posted on 12/09/2009 1:45:25 PM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: iopscusa
"This is it Americans, pick your side! I do not want to be an unrepresented serf do you? "

Good luck...Wake me when old time American-West justice on Capital Hill begins...Anything else is just the usual: "Blah...Blah...Blah".

28 posted on 12/09/2009 1:46:11 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: coconutt2000
If Obama attempts to surrender our national sovereignty to an unelected bureaucracy at Copenhagen, which is openly known to be based on junk science which is founded on fraudulent data, he knows that he will undermine our economic health, military strength and standard of living, while forcing us to pay taxes to an unelected, global body where we are not represented. He knows he will be bypassing the required legislative process as defined in the U.S. Constitution, therefore trampling our guaranteed liberties and rights as citizens of the United States and protected by the U.S. Constitution. Based on the definitions as stated, I believe Obama will meet most of the definitions for treason.

Treason, as defined in Dictionary.com, is 1. The offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign. 2. A violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or to one’s state. 3. The betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery., as defined at


29 posted on 12/09/2009 1:47:17 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: iopscusa

If our pres signs this treaty and tries to enforce it, this along with this EPA nonsense Im sure will be the catalyst to start our 2nd revolution and kick all of their asses literally out of our House.


30 posted on 12/09/2009 1:50:05 PM PST by eak3
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To: eak3

Simply and well said. He will go on trial for treason and all the dems/pubs that backed him will lose their jobs.


31 posted on 12/09/2009 1:54:54 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Hey, GOP, where are the legions of Republican lawyers that can stop all of the Obama agenda in their tracks?

For years, the Lefties used the courts to stop, slow down and pervert acts of Congress, referendums, etc.

We have to stop these things. We have capable legal staff as well.

The signing of a treaty without the Constitutional authority by the Senate is an impeachable offense, and a violation of Zero’s oath of office.


32 posted on 12/09/2009 1:56:47 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82

Well said.

On a side note: I no longer respect the nobel peace prize as Gore and Obama got one. To me it is no longer honorable. It is the equivalent of a prize in a box of Cracker Jack’s and that ain’t nothing nowadays but a paper with a gay rainbow flag on it.


33 posted on 12/09/2009 2:03:24 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: iopscusa

Never. I won’t! end of story.


34 posted on 12/09/2009 2:04:39 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: eak3
You might be a tad optimistic about the American people actually rising up to overthrow their oppressors in Washington.

Most people right now are more interested in hearing the details of Tiger's many mistresses, or figuring out what cheap Chinese toys they're going to buy their kids for Christmas. The neighborhood Wal-Mart is the focus of their concerns. Copenhagen might as well be in another universe for all they care.
To most Americans, the Constitution is something they read about in 7th grade Civics class.

Pardon my cynicism...

35 posted on 12/09/2009 2:08:03 PM PST by Deo volente (Sarah Palin was right. There ARE death panels in the bill.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Found this on another thread: “Obama can use his authority to make a binding agreement in Copenhagen without additional action from Congress. The Constitution and existing domestic environmental laws give President Obama all the power he needs to join with other nations in making a real commitment to solve the climate crisis.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2403898/posts
UN plans to tax US!!!


36 posted on 12/09/2009 2:21:08 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Nobel_1

ping to # 36


37 posted on 12/09/2009 2:34:58 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Deo volente

You have a point. All of what you name. Now if they cancelled dancing with the stars, the people would rise up.


38 posted on 12/09/2009 2:36:26 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: TruthConquers

Someone put christianright in the keywords. Trollers are so obvious.

But the scary thing is are there people dems? out there that want global communism? I mean really?


39 posted on 12/09/2009 2:45:55 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Bad news for anyone who exercises. All that extra CO2!


40 posted on 12/09/2009 3:26:25 PM PST by pabianice
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