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To: LibertarianAdam
The 14th, among other things, clarified who is a citizen, and like it or not even “anchor babies” are citizens...that is simply a fact..

Why is is that you afterbirthers have such a problem differentiating between "Citizen" and "Natural Born Citizen?" Honestly - why do you all have these "issues?"

The 14th Amendment says NOTHING about the uniqueness of what a Natural Born Citizen is. Not a word.

By the way I was not born in the USA -- I am a naturalized Citizen. With your skewed logic (with no difference between Citizen and NBC) I am eligible to be president because I am a US citizen. I say to you, "hogwash!"

54 posted on 12/08/2009 6:18:00 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: thecraw
I am a naturalized Citizen. With your skewed logic (with no difference between Citizen and NBC) I am eligible to be president because I am a US citizen. I say to you, "hogwash!"

Comprehension is not your strong point, is it? Don't feel bad. The inability to understand even the most simplest of explanations seems to be a common trait among birthers.

55 posted on 12/08/2009 6:28:42 PM PST by Drew68
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To: thecraw
Why is is that you afterbirthers have such a problem differentiating between "Citizen" and "Natural Born Citizen?" Honestly - why do you all have these "issues?" Because there is no legal difference amongst citizens that is based on parentage. Or is there is a law or court case you can point to that will correct my opinion? Please, point out anything other than a 17th century Swiss guy's opinion on the matter. The 14th Amendment says NOTHING about the uniqueness of what a Natural Born Citizen is. Not a word. Agreed. But it did change our definition of a citizen, which affects the intent of whatever the framers intended, which is very relevant. The "natural" part is of issue here. Are there three classes of citizens (natural/native/naturalized)? You may have opinions about that, but the SCOTUS decisions and the 14th Amendment seem to indicate there aren't. Besides your personal opinion and conjecture, can you tell me that there are indeed three classes of citizenship and cite them? Even if you think there are three classes, does anybody really think that SCOTUS will ever say so? If you do, I have a few bridges for sale. By the way I was not born in the USA -- I am a naturalized Citizen. With your skewed logic (with no difference between Citizen and NBC) I am eligible to be president because I am a US citizen. I say to you, "hogwash!" Please notice I didn't say there was no difference between NBC and citizen. Obviously a naturalized citizen couldn't become President. I am only saying that there is no legal reason to parse the terms "native born" and "natural citizen", particularly in light of the 14th amendment. I agree this is completely my opinion as I just stated it, but to date it appears that the courts are pretty much in agreement. If either of your parents were US citizens (native or naturalized) and otherwise conform with US laws about receivership of citizenship, then you would be eligible to be President. Now, if you specifically rejected your citizenship or solicited and took citizenship from another country, that would be a different matter.
57 posted on 12/08/2009 6:43:13 PM PST by LibertarianAdam (Let the government protect our borders, then leave us alone within them)
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