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To: Huck

Liberty is the goal. We’ve secured that through the Constitution.

You’re getting your history mixed up. What existed before the ratification were thirteen united states. The document itself, the Declaration of Independence, reads,
“The Declaration of Independence

Action of Second Continental Congress,
July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America”

NB: lower case united, not the United States of America, our country. Each of them, as stated at the end of the Declaration, were free and independent states. They behaved that way for some time. The Constitution united us.

Let’s not throw out the Constitution because it’s been abused by forces who’d like it destroyed completely. It will be the very same document that saves us.


64 posted on 12/10/2009 12:38:49 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

No, my history’s not mixed up, but yours is. I direct you to the Articles of Confederation, Article 1.

http://www.usconstitution.net/articles.html#Article1

The United States of America existed for several years BEFORE the Constitution.


65 posted on 12/10/2009 1:17:25 PM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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To: 1010RD
The Constitution united us.

No it didn't. It CONSOLIDATED the states under one supreme, complete national government. But we were already united. We were united in Congress against during the war years, and under the Articles in the years after that, up until the ratification of the Constitution.

66 posted on 12/10/2009 1:20:55 PM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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To: 1010RD

Article III. The said States hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defense, the security of their liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretense whatever.


67 posted on 12/10/2009 1:25:15 PM PST by Huck (The Constitution is an outrageous insult to the men who fought the Revolution." -Patrick Henry)
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