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To: death2tyrants

“Folks in nations like Iraq and Turkey believe otherwise. “

Do they, now....

“The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army” - Turkish PM Erdogan.

“Liberating millions from tyrany and fostering a demcratic ally is not the proper role of the US President, according to you.”

Where in the Constitution is the President authorized to do that? Defeat the enemy, don’t build him up. If the mission was to stop Hussein as a threat, fine, but if the mission was to liberate the Middle East from itself, no, that’s not fine.

It doesn’t matter, though, as no “democratic ally” can possibly have this in their constitution

“Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

B. No law that contradicts the principles of democracy may be established.

C. No law that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms stipulated in this constitution may be established. “

A is clearly in conflict with B and C. Guess which one will win. The new Iraq is no “Democracy”. It’s a proto-theocracy.

“Democracy” doesn’t mean “freedom” or peace-loving. It’s just head counting. If people use “democracy” to vote in tyranny, just how does that serve anyone? Just like State, you have a childish view of “Democracy!”... one the Founders did not share.

Oh, and GWB supported an Al Qaeda affiliate in Kosovo. He, along with Clinton and McCain, helped establish a beachhead for them in Europe.


230 posted on 12/08/2009 11:41:02 PM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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To: Favor Center
Do they, now....

Yes. They do. Iraq is now an ally and not an enemy. Saddam is dead. If ACLU-Bob had it his way, we would have abandoned Iraq to al-qaeda.

Defeat the enemy, don’t build him up.

Typical senseless statement from a Bob Barr supporter. We removed an enemy and built up a democratic ally.

but if the mission was to liberate the Middle East from itself, no, that’s not fine.

I see you're not even familiar with the legislation authorizing Operation Iraqi Freedom. But since you're an ACLU-Bob supporter, this doesn't suprise me. Why don't you go back to the Alex Jones websites where you belong?

A is clearly in conflict with B and C.

False. If you were right, they wouldn't have provisions banning takfir, which you claimed didn't exist. You need to play make-believe in an effort to paint our efforts in Iraq as a failure. Hey, I've got a question for you. Sarah Palin supports our efforts in both Iraq and Afganisntan. If she runs in 2012, does this mean you will rally against the Republican ticket again and vote for Bob Barr? Hey! I've got a challenge for you. Post a vanity about how Bob Barr should be the nominee for 2012 instead of Sarah Palin. I double-dog-dare you.

231 posted on 12/09/2009 12:30:03 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants

“Oh, and GWB supported an Al Qaeda affiliate in Kosovo. He, along with Clinton and McCain, helped establish a beachhead for them in Europe.”

I double-dog-dare you to prove the above statement wrong. You glossed over that one, as expected.


233 posted on 12/09/2009 6:32:48 AM PST by Favor Center (Targets Up! Hold hard and favor center!)
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