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To: bvw

I agree w/ you completely. IMO, FDR was itchin’ to get the US involved in WWII so he could help his good friend Uncle Joe fight the Nazis. The Germans might have been able to defeat the Russians had it not been for the US.


31 posted on 12/07/2009 7:57:19 AM PST by ChrisInAR ("You gotta let it out, Captain!")
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To: ChrisInAR

Think you’re overreaching here. FDR was a neo-socialist but wasn’t a Commie red. Both he and Churchill would’ve loved to see the only outcome of the Nazi menace be an invasion of the USSR ... there is zero evidence that Roosevelt was more friendly with Stalin. At that time, Stalin had no friends. He’d just murdered 30 million of his own people during the 1930s and this was widely known. FDR was just another enlightened Westerner who believed in high taxes and good paternalistic Government — exactly what Western Europe is today and became immediately after WWII.


38 posted on 12/07/2009 8:14:00 AM PST by tom h
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To: ChrisInAR

Until 6 months before Pearl Harbor Hitler and Stalin were allies.


146 posted on 12/07/2009 7:33:33 PM PST by Pelham ("Badges?!! We don' need no stinkin' badges!!")
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To: ChrisInAR
I agree w/ you completely. IMO, FDR was itchin’ to get the US involved in WWII so he could help his good friend Uncle Joe fight the Nazis.

Really? What we now call WW2 began as a string of somewhat unrelated conflicts. Germany on Poland. Russia on Poland. Russia on the Baltics. Russia on Finland. Japan on China. Russia on Japan (Mongolia). Germany on France & Britain. It wasn't until 1942 that the struggle assumed the full-dimensions that we all think of today.

Prior to Pearl Harbor Japan pretty much ignored it's obligation to the Tri-partite pact to come to the aid of Germany & Italy. It didn't attack the Soviet Union after Hitler invaded in the late Summer of '41 (when it would have done some good). It opted instead to take the easy pickings of the French & Dutch Pacific possessions that were there for the taking. Of course Japan had to deal with Britain (Singapore) and the US (Philippines).

Pearl Harbor was a strategic raid designed to prevent a US battlefleet from coming to the aid of McArthur's forces as they retired to Bataan & Corregidor. Without a relief force it was only a matter of time before the Philippines surrendered.

147 posted on 12/07/2009 7:33:47 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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