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To: campfollower
This is complete and total BS. It is the classic case of an internet-driven rumor.

The person who started it all by claiming he witnessed the so-called Muslims was still on another delayed flight 22 minutes from landing at Atlanta when the incident happened. he was angry at Airtran for not holding the flight, so made up the story of the so-called Muslims. Manifests and ATC records prove tis.

Many other so-called witnesses, quoted by the Internet websites, say in their written statements that they DID NOT witness the incident, only heard about it from others.

I will post more on this later, in an article about how we are degraded when we repeat and believe this stuff, but here are the real basics.

The flight had a number of foreign language-speaking passengers. They were NOT Muslims. Despite repeated requests from the stews, in English and a lot of “pointy-talky” one passenger would not turn off a video game as required by the FARs. The stew told the pilot, who was then forbidden by FARs to takeoff, just like they would be if a passenger was smoking or not wearing their seat belt.

They returned to the gate. Problem was resolved when they found a translator. This is not unusual. Happens about 20-50 times a week somewhere in US because of language problems, drunk or sick passengers, etc. Delayed passenger who made up story was now REALLY pi**ed because AirTran would not remove the standby passenger who had been boarded when he was a no show because of his delayed inbound flight.

TV and radio stations in Houston have interviewed dozens who were all aboard flight, including three local Texas cops and about a dozen US military. None of the Muslim stuff occurred.

It's all the guy who was POed at AirTran, who will not be interviewed, and has now hired a lawyer to defend himself.

This has been discussed at length elsewhere, and we are simply getting sucked in of we repeat it.

Don't be a victim of Internet BS. There are too many real Obama stories out there!

36 posted on 12/06/2009 12:31:38 PM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick Dems when they're down. Wait 'till they're 1/2 way back up. You get much better leverage!)
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To: MindBender26

Let’s see links to your sources.


37 posted on 12/06/2009 12:33:39 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: MindBender26

there’s 3 witnesses now

you need to read more of the thread

or maybe read it once


43 posted on 12/06/2009 12:59:57 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: MindBender26
TV and radio stations in Houston have interviewed dozens who were all aboard flight, including three local Texas cops and about a dozen US military. None of the Muslim stuff occurred.

Then certainly you will be able to post links to the stations plus the names of these folks and also youtubes or radio archives from the shows. If what you say here is true, I would like to stand corrected and it would be a valuable and interesting learning experience, as so far I have maintained that the more information that comes out, the more likely it appears that something dirty CERTAINLY went down and officials are scrambling to make it go away without notice.

Problem was resolved when they found a translator. This is not unusual. Happens about 20-50 times a week somewhere in US because of language problems, drunk or sick passengers, etc.

How do you know this? And how does this fit into what AirTran and TSA officials confirm, which is that a total of 13 or 14 individuals were ultimately involved in a party that was traveling together? How could a party that large NOT have one among them that could quickly resolve the translator problem?

Please, I am awaiting your explanation. Explain a plausible scenario for no one among the party being able to translate. If had been ZERO info or response from AirTran or the TSA, or if there had been outright denial of the whole thing, I'd be inclined to agree with you. But the very fact that AirTran and the TSA have responded with exceedingly weak and lame explanations, it rather CONFIRMS that this is a classic case of an internet-driven EXPOSE.

87 posted on 12/06/2009 8:16:23 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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