Posted on 12/06/2009 11:30:27 AM PST by campfollower
How far off was the timing on the ACARS?
5 minutes? or One hour? That would help explain some issues.
But, and point must be raised, where are the other passenger’s e-mails about their experiences? There should be some supporting or disproving the accounts!
“Time to play cowboys and muslims. But for real.”
I hear that sentiment more and more every day.
Which of your other assertions of fact are ‘simply’ your beliefs?
You are now all blocked.
What I WANT is the truth. You claimed to have it. You posted all kinds of assertions as facts, then backpedalled when called on them.
Amen! You and me both, Sister FReeper!
You are a phony baloney. I suspect you are a bigger liar than Petruna.
You are out of line with those kind of attacks on Mindbender. Cool it.
We can't. It was just ONE MORE THING MindBender is lying about. And he calls Petruna the phony! Remember folks, THIS is the kind of guy who was reporting network TV news for three-plus decades. I bet Ron Burgunday ain't got nuthin' on him!!!
Then again, Bender may have been lying about that, too.
I spoke with my friend who is in the security consulting business. While he does not know Brent Brown, he has mutual clients with them, and has a generally favorable impression of them based on his conversations with the mutual clients. In short, Brent Brown is “real” and almost certainly credible, is his take on this.
My friend designs security and access control systems for commercial and institutional buildings, and Chesley Brown primarily provides security guard services, just to explain their industry connections.
-- and I called him out for cowardly behavior and probably lying -- after all, he hasn't been able to confirm a single one of his claims to me. NOT ONE.
Why aren't you telling HIM that he's out of line telling all of us that we "have suspended what little logical thought process you had"?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm????
I think there is WAY MORE THAN ENOUGH questionable and evasive, vague reporting in the AJC report sourcing AirTran and TSA to indicate that there was something really stinky going on on Flight 297.
Just thinking critically -- as our brave and courageous friend MindBender admonished us to do (but failed to do himself).
I concur. In what way was Finny out of line? Have you read the condescending comments MindBender has made to those that are questioning the official story? In addition, did you notice that he did THE EXACT SAME THING that he is accusing Petruna of doing... making up stuff. Don’t you find that disingenuous? It stinks to high heaven.
Tell me how it is that any self-respecting reporter would settle for AirTran and TSA stating that a passenger seated behind the offfender who caused the plane to return to the gate said she "believed" he was speaking Spanish (you mean she couldn't tell? THAT's a credible witness???) and how that reporter didn't follow up with "How would a passenger who only speaks Spanish pose a language-translator problem on a domestic flight bound for Texas?"
Mindbender stated that local radio and TV stations in Houston had interviewed "dozens" of people who had been on the flight. Do you mean to tell me that not a single one of those stations could be reached by him to give him the names, or a youtube, or archived audio, of those interviews, so he could prove the claim?
The guy is a coward and probably a liar. I call 'em as I see 'em, and this Flight 297 thing stinks like yesterday's diapers -- and so does MindBender. He didn't at first -- a few days ago, I was really thinking he'd have me eating crow when he proved his claims, and as I have eaten crow before served up by fellow FReepers, well ... that's life. But he turned out not only to be a phony, but an insulting coward in the bargain.
Why coudln't he answer those three items I've posted to you in this post, and what are YOUR answers for them?
Thanks for the confirmation.
Mindbender lies worst than the AJC and Air Tran..
The Atlanta Journal/Const. and Alexis Stephens the reporter were in the process of culling their people due to the Obama recession when this incident happened. Amid the slashing and burning of reporting jobs, the AJC simply ran the Air Tran press release in the back pages of their hurting paper initially. Then the suburban Marietta Daily Journal actually did some work on the story, actually interviewing those involved and the AJC had to step up. Air Tran and their former government bureaucrat spokesperson were wrong to cover up what had happened and wrong to actually create a website to destroy the reputation and life of one of their passengers, just to cover up their incompetence and FAILURE to advocate for the safety of their crew and passengers. Twelve years later, and this still intrigues people. And that is because the airline covered for the middle eastern passengers, allowing them on the plane, while simultaneously causing great harm to their flight crews and the passengers on board. By the way, Snopes out and out lied about this incident as well as the Marietta Daily Journal journalist. I know that because I was close to the story. Shame on the leftist website SNOPES. Never believe that clickbait rag.
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