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Huckabee Was Correct and America Needs Such Principled Leadership
American Daily Review ^ | 12/06/2009 | Yomin Postelnik

Posted on 12/05/2009 11:19:27 PM PST by Yomin Postelnik

There is currently a move underway to discredit Mike Huckabee over the rightful pardoning of a then 16 year old who had been sentenced to 108 years on robbery charges. I make this statement as someone who fully supports the death penalty for murderers and for child rapists, but also as someone who recognizes that getting tough on crime means fostering sensible rehabilitation, not turning first time offenders into violent career criminals.

Yes, Governor Huckabee pardoned more people than most governors do. That’s because Gov. Huckabee isn’t thoughtless, callous or cruel and recognizes that public service actually entails service to the public. Sentencing a 16 year old to months of hard labor generally serves as the greatest deterrent (except in cases of murder and the like). By contrast, sentencing a teen to years in prison has almost inevitably bred nothing more than a violent menaces to society.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clemmons; election2012; huckabee; pardon
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To: Yomin Postelnik

I saw Huckabee suck Geraldo’s ego tonight on FOX assuring ever the racebaiter Geraldo that a young black man in Arkansas caught with ONE OUNCE OF POT would go straight to jail while a white kid would get nothing.

What utter crap.

Most black kids arrested today for something serious have rap sheets longer than the Dead Sea Scrolls.

and nobody does jail time for one oz of weed unless they are on probation or parole or supervised release and then it’s not a given.

I lost whatever ounce of respect I ever had for him right then.....Geraldo just beamed with pride...good Gawd.

PC GOP like this we don’t need.


21 posted on 12/06/2009 12:07:10 AM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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To: ColdWater

Untrue - at least read the facts before commenting. For child rape (pretrial, but evidence was ironclad), not robbery like Huckabee.


22 posted on 12/06/2009 12:07:30 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (www.ABetterFlorida.com - Also Support Marco Rubio, Allen West and reelect Tom Coburn in 2010)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Pure liberal dribble


23 posted on 12/06/2009 12:08:03 AM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Good luck on that Huckabee/Forbes campaign.

Great video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faKzzgXVAv8
“Clemency, you can get it from Mike Huckabee”


24 posted on 12/06/2009 12:08:19 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Arkinsaw

nice homepage...been a while since i looked last.


25 posted on 12/06/2009 12:08:55 AM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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To: Yomin Postelnik
Does a couple of teenagers raped by a murderer count one as a child rapist? One who then went on to murder again, after Chucklebee turned him loose, too?

Two members of the state parole board said Huckabee pressured them to show DuMond mercy, while Huckabee publicly questioned whether DuMond was guilty of the rape of a teenage girl. During the presidential primaries, a conservative group aired television commercials in South Carolina featuring the mother of Carol Sue Shields, whom DuMond killed in 2000 after his release.

Shooting re-opens Huckabee's clemency record


Early crimes
A decorated Vietnam-era military veteran, DuMond told reporters that he "helped slaughter a village of Cambodians".[5]

On August 8, 1972, DuMond was charged with murder in Lawton, Oklahoma. He committed the crime with help from two other men.[8] DuMond used the 17-year-old daughter of one of his accomplices to entice the victim to an isolated location, where DuMond and his accomplices beat him to death with a claw hammer. Prosecutors did not charge DuMond after he agreed to testify against the two others, though he admitted in court that he was among those who attacked the murder victim.

On October 19, 1973, DuMond was charged with molesting a teenage girl in the parking lot of a shopping center in Tacoma, Washington. The second-degree assault charge resulted in a five-year deferred sentence and mandatory drug counseling during the five-year probation.[8][5]

On September 28, 1976, DuMond was charged with raping a woman in DeWitt, Arkansas. The charges were dropped before trial with the condition he undergo counseling.[8]

[edit] Arkansas rape
DuMond received his second sexual assault conviction from a rape perpetrated in Arkansas in 1984. The victim, Ashley Stevens, was a 17-year-old cheerleader and a third cousin of then-Governor Bill Clinton.[9] Although she is much younger than Clinton, they share the same set of great-great-grandparents.

Wayne DuMond

Or is that just more "smear" and "political conspiracy" against your demigod?

There is also plenty more examples of his misguided paroles/clemencies/pardons gone awry.

26 posted on 12/06/2009 12:10:14 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

How’s that sensible rehabilitation and thoughtful service to the public working out for the victims of the criminals Huckabee was involved in freeing?

In my opinion, Huckabee was self-serving; doing what he did made HIM feel good, as if he was morally superior. And arrogant. He did it because he COULD.

This is garbage. Huckabee’s actions and those of others like him are exactly why parents are afraid to let their kids out to play. Evil people are consistently released back into society to continue to prey upon the vulnerable because mush-headed do-gooders care more about themselves and the perpetrators than they do about society as a whole.

Yours is one of the more bizarre articles I’ve read. Yeah, a few “bad apples” get through, but mass murder and the rape of children are good for ya in the long run—really!


27 posted on 12/06/2009 12:13:42 AM PST by Nickname (2012 - Yes You're Canned!)
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To: Yomin Postelnik
There is currently a move underway to discredit Mike Huckabee over the rightful pardoning of a then 16 year old who had been sentenced to 108 years on robbery charges.

You should read the following article before you buy that story.

Huckabee is lying about cop killer's age and criminal record in Arkansas

28 posted on 12/06/2009 12:14:27 AM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: ABQHispConservative

If kids are given life sentences for robbery - yes, you inevitably create animals, lots of them.

Labor sentences aren’t light. They’re what’s needed. The recidivism rate in America is far more than in other countries. While we have health care, economy, religion, freedom of speech and a whole slew of other things right (until/unless Obama messes with them), they have sentencing in a more productive way. Sentences here were less harsh and more reasonable too, with plenty of leeway given to judges (and the judge in this case basically supported his parole) until liberals came up with “equalized” sentencing guidelines in the late 80s. So yes, across the board harsh sentences are another failed aspect of statism.


29 posted on 12/06/2009 12:15:40 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (www.ABetterFlorida.com - Also Support Marco Rubio, Allen West and reelect Tom Coburn in 2010)
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To: Nickname

Well, if you’d stop faulting him for not having hindsight vision and look at the actual effects of long sentences, you’d see that it’s the system you advocate for that led to child rape and murder and everything else you list, not his parole.


30 posted on 12/06/2009 12:19:30 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (www.ABetterFlorida.com - Also Support Marco Rubio, Allen West and reelect Tom Coburn in 2010)
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To: Yomin Postelnik

Whoever wrote this is just plain stupid.

No, people do not dislike Huckabee because he is an unabashed Christian. It’s because he is a PHONY Christian. You were fooled. He’s a liar, and he lies about dumb things too, which gives him a bit of sociopathy.

Plenty of good Christians have SEEN THROUGH Huck’s act. I guess there are still a few who are fooled.


31 posted on 12/06/2009 12:21:15 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yomin Postelnik

I will give you this: we need to bring back hard labor as well as self-sufficient farm prisons. Definitely.

Separate issue from Huckabee’s political career. Which is over.


32 posted on 12/06/2009 12:23:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: TigersEye

The story is misleading - or “lying” as you would say. The kid was 16 at the time of the crimes. When he became an adult and raped the kid in May, that’s when he should have been executed, not let out. Huckabee’s actions were right and in the larger picture, needed.


34 posted on 12/06/2009 12:25:09 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (www.ABetterFlorida.com - Also Support Marco Rubio, Allen West and reelect Tom Coburn in 2010)
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To: ConservativeMind
The writer is Jewish, so it is a Jew who can’t see through the farce.

Well, I'm a Jew and I can see through it. And Forbes would NOT run for President with Huck. Sheesh.

35 posted on 12/06/2009 12:25:32 AM PST by Yaelle
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Great responses, everyone. Huckabee needs to realize that the jig is up and stop thinking about 2012.


36 posted on 12/06/2009 12:26:08 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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39 posted on 12/06/2009 12:30:01 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: ConservativeMind

Is this about how religious he is or about what makes societal sense and stops the development of career criminals? Please remind me.

Yes, I’d gather that he’s upright in his religious practice because he proposes sensible solutions - unlike the statist ones you propose that have turned kids into sadistic murderers - Clemmons being just one such case.


40 posted on 12/06/2009 12:30:28 AM PST by Yomin Postelnik (www.ABetterFlorida.com - Also Support Marco Rubio, Allen West and reelect Tom Coburn in 2010)
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