"What should we DO about Islam? What should be our strategy be for dealing with this threat?"

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[himno hero]

SOOOOOOOooooooo .... as per the thread title....

What should we do about Islam is not the issue ...Its difficult with the chief being a closet muslim... which is just staring to to come out. How is this mess going to be unwound and how much $hit is he going to get America into before its unwound.... if ever?

You have read the symptoms well. Your diagnosis is very accurate. SOOooooo again. What is the solution?

[onedoug]

What about barry?

[The Comedian]

First, sterilize the nest:

Then, go about exterminating the stragglers.

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[ought-six]

“Islam has nothing. It has no intellectual tradition, no philosophy, and no art or music, simply because it is a death-dealing cult that is hostile to human life.”

You touched on the very heart of the matter: islam is lifeless and soulless; hollow and achromatic; a servile movement wherein its adherents debase themselves before Apollyon. It is an invidious belief system can only survive by feeding on innocence, and like the cancer it is, it will die either by excision or quarantine, in either case it will ultimately devour itself and be no more.

[Capt. Tom]

The first thing I believe we should do is simply come to grips with what it is, the mortal enemy of western civilization. A religion perhaps, but one riven with an evil ideology that, now rich with oil money is determined to realize it’s ultimate 14 century old quest.

Well said .
Muslims should be subjugating converting or killing non-believers, and definitely not making friends with non Muslims. That is in the Koran and Hadiths.

But most Christians have trouble coming to grips with Islam because their own Christian beliefs are so different.
Being a good Samaritan, turning the other cheek, forgiving transgressions,being honest with everyone etc. sets you up to being naive about Islam.

Read the Koran and Hadiths for further clarification and edification before it is too late. - Tom.

[hoagy62]

Ah, true....except the Romans got something wrong.

You see, neither Judaism nor Christianity is a centralized religion. Yes, Jews were SUPPOSED to worship at the Temple, but they worshiped anywhere they were. They still have a G-d to worship, and no one certain place they MUST do it. As for Christianity, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Christians MUST worship AT or TO a certain place.

Muslims MUST pray towards Mecca. It’s in the Koran. It never makes any provision that a Muslim may pray toward ANYWHERE else. Would someone pray towards a radioactive hole in the ground?

[hal ogen]

Reality is that they ALL want you to submit. Some want to kill your family in front of you and then kill you. Even if that “some” is only 1% of mooslims, that’s a significant problem. I think we all know what we “should” do.

[SAMWolf]

Nuke en till they glow and then shoot them in the dark.

[livius]

I’ve always thought that taking out Mecca would stop that cult dead in its tracks. We didn’t have the technology to do it in the past, but now we do.

[VR-21]

"But most Christians have trouble coming to grips with Islam because their own Christian beliefs are so different. Being a good Samaritan, turning the other cheek, forgiving transgressions,being honest with everyone etc. sets you up to being naive about Islam."

What irony there is in the way the modern left constantly screeches about the "Religious (read Christian) Rights" desire to impose a theocracy while they concurrently kiss muslim backsides.

[GI Joe Fan]

Given the fact that Americans are decent, civilized people by nature, there is little we will do.

In order to save the Republic and Western Civilization, the muslims must be purged from every dwelling herein.

Once removed, they should all be deposited back in the middle east where they belong.

I know it sounds unfair to them, but these people identify with terrorists and murderers before they identify with Americans and Europeans.

There is really no other solution.

MAJ Hasan, Richard Reid and so many others are SUPPORTED by the general muslim population.

Sure, they might tell the American people that they disavow the terrorism.

But if Hasan were speaking to them in private, they would all most likely be in agreement that Islam must be spread no matter the cost.

This includes the destruction of life itself.

Which Pope was it that essentially said that Islam brings nothing but death and destruction wherever it goes?

The Pope is right.

[livius]

The other difference, of course, is that Judaism and Christianity are true. Islam is not. It is a false religion, a political movement dressing itself in the delirious hallucinations of its founder to pretend it is a religion and should be taken seriously as such.

But there’s nothing there. Destroy its symbolic physical location, and it will evaporate.

[livius]

a servile movement wherein its adherents debase themselves before Apollyon.

I think that sums it up.

I have always thought of Islam as being achromatic, too, btw.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

You see, neither Judaism nor Christianity is a centralized religion. Yes, Jews were SUPPOSED to worship at the Temple, but they worshiped anywhere they were. They still have a G-d to worship, and no one certain place they MUST do it.

I'd argue first that Islam is even less centralized than Christianity. For the first 1500 years of Christianity, there was a distinct hierarchy, leadership and center and for two/thirds of Christians it still holds true. Islam has never had a pope, and really doesn't even have an organized ordained priesthood. As far as the idea that Muslims MUST worship at Mecca, the fact is that only about 10% ever do perform the haj.

Muslims MUST pray towards Mecca. It’s in the Koran. It never makes any provision that a Muslim may pray toward ANYWHERE else. Would someone pray towards a radioactive hole in the ground?

Why not? Jews still pray at one ruined wall.

I think in the movie "Pitch Black" there were some intergalactic Muslims and a bit of dialogue saying that after Mecca was nuked, it was decided that since the dust spread over the entire planet, all of Earth was now Mecca. I could easily see something like that happening.

[airborne]

It's too late to “do something”.

The only thing left (thanks to political correctness) is await the coming war within America.

Then maybe citizens will realize that Islam is a politically motivated cult that must be completely removed, like a cancer.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

The first thing is to realize that Islam isn’t special. It is large, but broken into many parts. Yet its worst overall problem is that it has never had a major Reformation.

Right now, there are some Muslims that are trying to rewrite the violent and destructive elements of their religion, to push them to the background and highlight the more peaceful aspects.

Importantly, when Martin Luther, et al., started the Reformation in Christianity, it resulted in several very nasty, extended internal wars, like the 30 Years War. Now granted, there was a strong nationalistic component to this, but that is the case as well with Islam.

But, in the final analysis, in the rank and file of Islam, there is right now a great desire for Reformation, though it is considerably cowed by threat of violence and intimidation. Perhaps when their doctrines are rewritten, there will be some hope for change.

[hoagy62]

Never saw the movie, but what you said gave me chills. Yes...in the sick, twisted mind of the Muslim, one could certainly make that leap.

Crap.

Now the only hope is the Return of Jesus Christ.

[cgchief]

Personally, I’m sick and tired of pussyfooting around this issue. CAIR has admitted that they goal is to extend the Muslim Caliphate to include the U.S., and then to repeal the constitution and mandate sharia law.

In my humble military opinion, this constitutes a direct threat to the national sovereignty of the United States, our culture, our way of life.

First things first, I’d reduce Mecca and Medina to nothing but radioactive dust heaps. Second, any nation which allows Muslim training camps or provides any form of support for activities contrary to the interests of the American people will receive a nuclear tipped cruise missile knocking on the door of that country’s presidential or head of state’s residence. Third, all people captured on the battlefield or engaging in terroristic activites against the U.S. are summarily executed with their corpses buried face down, their ass towards a radioactive Mecca and buried in a pig feed lot.

Granted it’s radical, but these people have shown that they will give no quarter, so let’s return the favor. I’d suggest that we revisit the manner in which the U.S. Marines fought the Japanese in WWII. My father was a Mud Marine and fought on both Guadalcanal and Iwo Jima, since the Japanese wouldn’t surrender or leave their caves, the Marines wisely, just blew up the cave entrances and walked away.

Lesson learned.

[hellbender]

I agree with most of that. Certainly we should put out a warning, perhaps covertly, to all Muzzie nations that they would cease to exist as nations if we were ever attacked again. But we don't even have the guts to keep Muzzies out of this country, or to stop the Saudis and others from spreading their poison in our prisons and elsewhere. We should never again go in and bail out a country like Iraq, knowing that it would be at best an "Islamic republic" where Christians would be persecuted and ultimately wiped out.

Back in the days of the Soviet Union, we used to arm and otherwise assist anyone who wanted to resist the Commies. We should do the same with Islam.

[budwiesest]

Iran will toss the first fire-cracker (hopefully it can be intercepted) and then all hell breaks loose. Our guys need to be ready to respond when it happens, and respond quickly. They get a quick trip to paradise, we get oil.