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To: Danae
Its been pretty well proven that Obama was born there. Hawaii has admitted that they have documents dating within a week of his birth there.
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If they had been serious they would have used the words **original long form birth certificate**!!!! ( note singular)

Fukino did not! She instead referred to “vital records” ( note the plural. These could be anything at all. They could even have been amended records submitted by Obama himself!

PULEEZ! This is getting old. You really should know better.

But...I DO agree with you about his father. Nothing would please me more than to have the Supreme Court make a decision on this.

64 posted on 12/05/2009 2:09:43 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
The term “vital records” (or vital statistics) has a specific meaning and isn't “just anything at all”.

Look at it this way, had Fukino just said “birth certificate” then the birthers would be complaining that Hawaii must have other information that they are covering up or refusing to release because the state maintains vital records that cover more than just birth information.

Ref: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/misc/usvss.pdf

Excerpt from the introduction:

“Vital statistics for the United States are obtained
from the official records of live births, deaths, fetal
deaths, marriages, divorces, and annulments. The official
recording of these events is the responsibility of
the individual States and independent registration
areas (District of Columbia, New York City, and territories)
in which the event occurs; the Federal Government
obtains use of the records for statistical purposes
through a cooperative arrangement with the responsible
agency in each State.”

168 posted on 12/08/2009 5:48:05 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: wintertime

See also: http://www.vitalrec.com/

Excerpt:

“In general, vital records weren’t kept in the United States until the early 1900s. Vital records usually contain the full name of the individual involved in the event, the date of the event, and the county, state, or town where the event took place. Many vital records contain much more information. For example, birth records usually have the parent’s full names, the name of the baby, the date of the birth, and county where the birth took place, marriage records often record the names and birthplaces of each individual’s parents. Divorce records usually list the names of the couple’s children. Death certificates often mention where the individual will be buried, and also give the name of the individual who reported the death. and death certificate.”

Or: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vital_record

Excerpt:

“Vital records are records of life events kept under governmental authority, including birth certificates, marriage licenses, and death certificates. In some jurisdictions, vital records may also include records of civil unions or domestic partnerships. In the United States, vital records are typically maintained at the state level.”


169 posted on 12/08/2009 5:52:33 PM PST by El Sordo
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