Posted on 12/05/2009 9:16:13 AM PST by Irisshlass
It’s no surprise that AirTran, the TSA, and other authorities are circling the wagons and claiming that Petruna’s and, now, Dr. Robinson’s, accounts aren’t true. That’s what they always do. Attack the messenger to block the truth. But I believe Petruna and, now, Robinson. AirTran and the authorities have every motivation to lie. They acted in the best interests of . . .? Well, certainly not their passengers.
As we know, authorities think we shouldn’t know about these things. They don’t want us to panic or to be suspicious of Muslims, when they’re busy doing outreach over shawarmeh at “Ahmed’s Falafel Hut.” But I had the same experience when Detroit Metro Airport police told me a bomb was found on a Northwest flight, which was evacuated, and Northwest denied it. Or when Muslim men were on a Northwest flight from Detroit to Los Angeles and DHS released a report that was mostly redacted (because if it’s redacted, it didn’t happen, right?).
As I told you, prominent Tennessee-based radio talk show host, Steve Gill, conducted a lengthy, in-depth interview with Dr. Robinson, who confirmed everything Mr. Petruna wrote in his e-mail about what happened on that flight. Reader H.O. transcribed Steve’s interview, which I’d like you to read. Steve gave me permission to post that transcription here. Steve is no lightweight or fringe conspiracy theorist. He’s a major talk radio host in the South (as well as an attorney, professor, and former White House fellow) and asks the tough questions. And his show is nationally syndicated on radio stations across the country.
(Excerpt) Read more at debbieschlussel.com ...
“because if it’s redacted, it didn’t happen, right?”
It MUST be true on accout of I heard it on talk radio.....
1) Why did the “muzzies” talk on cell phones, get up and walk around etc while the plane was on the ground? Most hijacking are after the A/C in the in the and at altitude
2) Why did TSA and airport police respond? Cops got guns, thank the Lord for now the fat-ass TSA types do not.
3) HOw nice that one of the tough guy heros is willing to talk about the entire sortid mess, eh?
The whole thing does not pass the smell test, sorry
Of course, YMMV
thanks for posting the link to the interview.
Didn’t happen.
Not a dry run or a test. Staged for maximum “victim” effect. Now they can say they are persecuted for just being members of the cult of death when they are really just innocent people with funny headgear and silly customs, and not angry, fanatical throwbacks to the middle ages who practice head chopping and neck slicing, and who yell and scream death threats through their dirty beards.
“Nancy Deveikis was seated in seat 29A aboard Flight 297, directly behind an unidentified man who she believes spoke Spanish. Deveikis said the man was looking at pictures on a camera, and did not understand a flight attendant’s requests to turn the device off.”
That paragraph alone is enough to tell me Airtrans and TSA are full of crap.
Planes do NOT return to the gate unless it's a really major deal.
Only the most limited American adult on Planet Earth could confuse Arabic with Spanish, and vice-versa.
There is not a snowball's chance in HELL that a plane making a domsetic flight connected to the American southwest, for cripes sakes, filled with 70-plus people, cast and crew, didn't have several (if not dozens) among them who weren't bilingual in Spanish and English. PUH-leeeeze.
I don't pretend to know about Petruna's story and I don't pretend to know about the Champlain's story.
I DO know for certain that this version implying that a Spanish-speaking person unable to understand English therefore caused the plane to return to the gate, is absolute horsesh*t with ZERO liklihood of being true.
Read Debby every day. She thinks exactly like us on matters of importance. For the truth on jihadi fanatacism read her and Robert Spencer.
Our corrupt government doesn’t want the public to panic. Actually they don’t care if we are scared to death - all they care about is that we don’t paint bad words on the walls of death cult indoctrination centers, and don’t yell evil hateful words like “towelhead” at practitioners of the cult of death.
The government doesn’t care if we are killed by the next attack by the cult of death. We are worthless in their eyes. Nothing but sacrificial lambs to be offered on the altar of political correctness.
Another reason why they did it is to use the “cry wolf” effect. When they decide to do a real terrorist attack, the people will have been softened, embarrassed, intimidated and they will be reluctant to do anything and go down in flames.
Wouldn’t it be much easier to just
deport the whole bunch?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
I believe this was an attempt to create grounds for a lawsuit. Whether there were other goals I cannot say.
In such and environment they would be able to take over the aircraft.
The Feds are still not protecting the southern border. Illegal aliens are still raping, murdering, stealing and drunk driving their way through our country.
The Feds under Clinton disarmed soldiers, paving the way for jihadist psychiatrist Dr. Nidal Hassan to murder 14 people at Fort Hood. Then the following week, they invite a jihadist from CAIR to inform the soldiers about Islam.
Maurice Clemmons gets his sentenced commuted by Gov. Huckabee, depending on who you believe, he never received all the information about Clemmons. Government failed in Arkansas, then in Washington State, this guy gets bail bonded out with 7 felonies on a current child rape beef. Huh? This is the proximate cause of the Lakewood Police massacre. No focus on this government failure to protect Americans with the focus on Huckabee.
Now, lets look at national security. Obama (like Bush) is dropping the ball on Iran's nuclear plans. Current theory is that Iran is preparing to launch EMP attacks on Europe and the US and wipe out the electric and electronic infrastructure of the West. Obama stabbed the Poles and Czechs in the back by dropping the anti-missile shield. Obama ended production of the F-22. Obama's 'designed-to-fail' surge in Afghanistan has one thing going for it. Obama lies. He says he'll start the pull out 6 months before the 2012 elections. So, this can become a campaign issue on victory.
This Air Tran terror dry run isn't the first one.
When the government fails to protect the people, the people will increasingly see to their own protection. Government fail.
We are under siege.
I’ll tell you a story that happen to me the Thanksgiving after 9/11. I was traveling home with my daughters out of state. We stopped at a rest area to use the restrooms. Before we got out of the car a muslim man walked up to my window and stood there staring at me with his hands in his pockets while 3 other muslim men were exiting the building. I immediately put it in reverse and took off. These men all jumped into a blue toyota a couple parking spots away from where I orginally parked and chased after me. I got up to speeds of 120 mph. When I got to my turn off, I exited and lost them. I was badly shakened when I arrived home but immediately called the police. In fact I was shakened for several weeks after that incident. The officer wanted to know if I had gotten a tag number. Duh??? Two days later a friend calls me and says there is a report in Florida of policeman passed out on the side of the road that had pulled over a blue toyota with two eastern middle men.
Who To Blame For Disarming Our Soldiers?
Saturday, 14 November 2009 09:15 | Author: Ralph Weller | PDF Print E-mail
Despite the media, it isn’t Clinton. The U.S. Army disarmed their soldiers at least 25 years before Clinton. The blame falls on our military leadership and today’s politicians who don’t recognize we are at war.
In my recent article “Stop the Silliness: Arm Our Soldiers and Marines” I pointed out soldiers in the U.S. Army are essentially unarmed on U.S. military installations, including Fort Hood. The only armed military personnel are law enforcement agencies, most notably military police, and if present, federal law enforcement officers who augment military police agencies on base.
Within a couple days after my article, the Washington Times posted an editorial calling for an end to the Clinton military gun ban on U.S. military bases.
The Washington Times and those who promulgated the above statement are simply wrong. The Army disarmed its soldiers at least 25 years earlier.
I entered active duty in 1971. The only non-MP military personnel that carried loaded firearms were those assigned to guard duty of sensitive base facilities, such as a centralized weapons armory, or the unit paymaster administering cash payments on payday.
On payday an officer of the unit was designated as the paymaster. He would draw a loaded 1911 .45 caliber handgun from the unit armory. His next act would be to receive the cash from the post finance center. He carried the loaded firearm on a pistol belt at all times while administering the pay process.
That was about it for armed soldiers on Fort Hood other than military police. In 1971 it was already illegal for military personnel to carry or store a personal firearm in any place other than a unit armory. Military firearms were only issued specifically for the activities described above, training, or periodic weapons qualification. Soldiers were not allowed to keep a personal or military firearm in either barracks or family housing. That was the case when I entered the army in 1971 and it was the case when I exited 20 years later in 1991 before Clinton.
I can appreciate the desire to blame someone for disarming our soldiers, and Clinton is as good a target as anyone. I didn’t like him then and I don’t like him now, but the army had already disarmed their soldiers long before Clinton. Weapon-less soldiers on U.S. military installations is a matter of fact since Vietnam. It is historical fact that prior to the Vietnam War, military officers, NCOs and, in some cases, soldiers carried firearms as a matter of routine going back to the formation of this country.
Unfortunately, the U.S. Army has become a “kinder and gentler” army. After all, who needs a firearm for protection on a U.S. military facility?
To that point, Fort Hood’s commanding general, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone on November 5 said in response to a reporter’s question, “As a matter of practice, we do not carry weapons — this is our home.”
If you didn’t hear General Cone’s response, he was not making a coy statement of disgust for not being allowed to arm his soldiers. His response was clearly a statement of disgust for someone even asking such a question and he placed emphasis on the words “… this is our home” to drive the point home that our soldiers should not be armed.
General Cone far exceeded the rank I achieved, but in my home at least I recognize that I have a duty to protect my family. My home is armed, politicians and political correctness be damned. The home of army soldiers and marines should be armed as well.
We are engaged in a war with an enemy that has infiltrated our country and by their own admission openly promote a ‘Jihad’ against our military. Military installations are primary targets. If they didn’t know before, now every Jihadist Muslim in this country knows how utterly vulnerable our military installations are. Disarming a primary target may be politically correct to appease the brass in Washington D.C. or politicians, but it foolishly makes targets of military personnel.
After September 11, 2001 our military should have been placed on maximum alert recognizing 9-11 as an act of war on our country. This should have been re-affirmed again after the arrest of the Muslim immigrants who plotted an attack on Fort Dix in recent years. Our military facilities and, most specifically, our military personnel are a prime target. Maintaining an anti-gun position of disarmament is nothing less than dereliction of an officer’s duty to protect the lives of their soldiers and incompetence on the part of our politicians.
Politicians and federal agencies are running for cover blaming each other while looking for the low-level scapegoats they can blame to protect political appointees, high level bureaucrats and politicians. The blame falls squarely on politicians and military leadership for allowing our military bases to be so vulnerable to attack. One person with a couple of handguns killed or wounded more people in one day on a U.S. military base than is generally seen in one day of combat in Iraq or Afghanistan combined. It’s easy to blame Hasan. After all he committed the terrorist act. But, don’t stop there. Start looking at the leadership of our military and those politicians who continue to support the notion that an unarmed soldier is a safer soldier.
Bottom line, let's stop disarming Americans on Military Bases, at Universities and at Schools. All proven targets.
Brent Brown, security expert, was on th same Air Tran flight as Petruna and Robinson. He details his experience here:
Local flier: Execs botched AirTran flight
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