'M and M' stick in craw of climate-change crew (Canadian "hobbyist" clobbers global warm-mongers)

The StarPhoenix [Saskatoon, Canada] ^ | December 5, 2009 | Richard Foot

[Mrs. Don-o]

Steve McIntyre, 62, is a Toronto retiree. He plays squash, dabbles with numbers and insists he never set out to stir up any trouble.

So why does his name appear again and again - in the most unflattering ways - in hundreds of e-mails written by the world's most influential climate change scientists[?]...McIntyre is called everything from a "bozo" and a "moron" to a "playground bully."

[snip]

McIntyre contacted Ross McKitrick, a University of Guelph statistical economist who was also analyzing the science behind the IPCC reports. Together they unearthed evidence that Mann's calculations were predisposed to producing a hockey stick-shaped graph, with sharply rising temperatures in the 20th Century.

[snip]

"That discovery hit me like a bombshell," wrote one scientist in the MIT Technology Review in 2004. "Suddenly the 'hockey stick,' the poster child of the global warming community, turns out to be an artifact of poor mathematics."

Although little-known in Canada, McIntyre and McKitrick - or M and M as they're called in climate change circles - have since 2003 put forward evidence of faulty calculations in some of the key scientific studies behind the reports of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Their work has drawn the attention of the U.S. Congress, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the Wall Street Journal, which last month called them "the climate change gang's most dangerous apostates."

[snip]

If scientists were really interested in learning the truth about global warming, McKitrick said he and McIntyre would be encouraged for contributing to the debate. Instead, they are seen as unwelcome outsiders, meddling where they have no business.

[Mrs. Don-o]

This is why science "hobbyists" are absolutely essential to the integrity of science. They are free of the tribalism, the group-think, the competition for multi-millions in public funding. They are free (!) to go where the evidence takes them, without the least consideration of whether a whole department, or a whole university, or a whole agency, or a whole damn international cabal is leaning one way or the other.

To me, the biggest fact emerging from this scandal is that the CRU at the University of East Anglia --- the epicenter of global climate research --- dumped their raw temperature data. Dumped it! It's gone! "The dog ate my data"!

They are terrified of any independent researchers accessing their data --- so they made it impossible to do so.

To me, it's jaw-dropping evidence that the IPCC enterprise is based on fraud.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[seton89]

Somewhere, there is a tumbrel with a reserved seat for Al Gore.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Ping-a-ling

[Islam=Murder]

We can’t let the MSM win this.

Best ClimateGate clips (show everybody you know):

http://www.BraveNewCommie.com

[Presbyterian Reporter]

Good to see some MSM attention to climategate in Canada.

But offsetting that good news is this video from CBC Canada telling Canadians there is nothing to report on Climategate because there is no Canadian Connection.

DUH!!!!

Evidently, CBC does not have a dossier on McIntyre!!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2400939/posts?page=1

[70th Division]

How about a Trebuchet seat for ol ALGORE!

[fhayek]

Faulty math. Intentionally fudged data. Pre-rigging experiments to fit desired results. Crucial data lost. Emails advising one another to delete data before the FOIA comes knocking. This pattern suggests only one thing: Fraud.

One of the climatologists wrote in an e-mail that the empirical data not fitting the predicted models was a travesty! A travesty? The world is not really facing impending doom, and its a travesty? If I were an astronomer, and I made a calculation that an asteroid was headed straight for earth, killing us all, but then someone else checked my study and found out that I was wrong, the asteroid isn't coming anywhere near earth, I wouldn't call this a travesty. I would be ecstatic that I was wrong. Kind of shows where these climate scientists' priorities are,

[William Tell]

Mrs. Don-o said: "To me, it's jaw-dropping evidence that the IPCC enterprise is based on fraud. "

I certainly agree.

Regardless of whether such raw data would indicate warming or not, my guess is that the nature of the data is such that any scientist would view the incompleteness, inconsistency, and ambiguity of such data as justification for not considering the data suitable for any scientific endeavor.

[Presbyterian Reporter]

One of the climatologists wrote in an e-mail that the empirical data not fitting the predicted models was a travesty! A travesty? The world is not really facing impending doom, and its a travesty? If I were an astronomer, and I made a calculation that an asteroid was headed straight for earth, killing us all, but then someone else checked my study and found out that I was wrong, the asteroid isn’t coming anywhere near earth, I wouldn’t call this a travesty. I would be ecstatic that I was wrong. Kind of shows where these climate scientists’ priorities are,

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Great Comment. I have come to believe that liberals have negative view of their surroundings and someone is always doing something to make them feel bad. It is always someone else’s fault.

So when the expectation of the world coming to an end does not happen, then that truly is a travesty for a liberal who seems to wallow in self-pity.

I mean the liberals were so counting of global warming making every one in the world as miserable as they are.

[fhayek]

You remember what Rahm Emmanuel said about a crisis? I think that that applies here as well.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

This is why science "hobbyists" are absolutely essential to the integrity of science. ... They are free (!) to go where the evidence takes them, without the least consideration of whether a whole department, or a whole university, or a whole agency, or a whole damn international cabal is leaning one way or the other.

The take over of academia by the Left is almost absolute and it is as dangerous as you suggest.

To me, the biggest fact emerging from this scandal is that the CRU at the University of East Anglia --- the epicenter of global climate research --- dumped their raw temperature data. Dumped it! It's gone! "The dog ate my data"!

Exactly! No matter what ones opinion of the assassination of JFK the fact that his brain has disappeared is evidence enough of a conspiracy, regardless of all other circumstances.

The same is true of the missing data here. That is all the evidence you need that all is not on the up and up.

[20 years too late]

Christopher Mockton puts the whole affair including Steve’s role in a 40 page pdf. A must read.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/Monckton-Caught%20Green-Handed%20Climategate%20Scandal.pdf

[Mind-numbed Robot]

... video from CBC Canada telling Canadians there is nothing to report on Climategate because there is no Canadian Connection.

They may be right. The climate is world wide. Is Canada in the world?

I guess they are. There is a Canadian Football League.

:-)

[Mrs. Don-o]

I see here at the U.K. Met Office --- Meterological Office, Britain's weather service --- has undertaken the task of re-assumbling the 160 years' worth of raw temperature data that the CRA/University of East Anglia dumped.

I think this is very, very good news.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Can they be trusted? If one group falsified the evidence at a university are you confident that a UK government agency will be accurate?

[Captain Beyond]

bump

[Mister Da]

Since the IPCC, CRU, & most other AGW proponents are lying, I am real curious about what M&Ms research indicates re. future warming or cooling. Their analysis MIGHT actually have some validity.

[Balding_Eagle]

the CRU at the University of East Anglia --- the epicenter of global climate research --- dumped their raw temperature data. Dumped it! It's gone!

I'm not convinced it's all gone. Yesterday there was a thread here about the New Zealand data going back to 1850 still being available. I'm sure there are many more instances of the same thing being discovered all around the world.

Notice what hasn't been talked about during the last two weeks since the story broke? The ARGO (ocean data) records. I'll wager those records, going back more than five years, show a steep decline in ocean temps.

I've said much the same since the GW Church went into panic mode early this year shortly after the announcement of five years of data having been collected. To my knowledge, none of the raw data has been seen by the public, and I think for good reason.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Now everybody's going to come forward with the data they've got; and all the "hobbyists" and "enthusiasts" who are Not On The Official Payroll will have a bash at it.

Fascinating and hopeful, I think.