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AirTran ‘hero' wasn't on plane, airline says
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 12/04/2009 | Alexis Stevens

Posted on 12/04/2009 6:04:17 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Its not a crock, A$$ HAT.

"According to AirTran, shortly after 4:40 p.m. on Nov. 17, Flight 297 bound for Houston taxied toward the runway of Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. But before the Boeing 717 made it to the runway, the pilot made the decision to return the plane to the gate. A flight attendant asked a male passenger twice to put away a cell phone or camera."

And on top of that why do we now have this from Homeland Security, as all of the Muslims return to the USA from their Haj in Mecca?Join the dots my man.

Homeland Security Live Alert

61 posted on 12/04/2009 11:05:49 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; buccaneer81

Yet different accounting, with multiple witness accounts...

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17508


62 posted on 12/05/2009 1:11:15 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: goat granny

“According to one airline security official, “This was a deliberate, well planned attempt to disrupt a domestic flight that was organized in advance of the boarding of these [Muslim] passengers. The purpose of their actions appeared to be multi-faceted, not the least of which was an attempt to change their status from passengers to victims of religious profiling.”


63 posted on 12/05/2009 5:24:35 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I think we need Glenn Beck and the Breitbart kids to look at this one, and similar ones.


64 posted on 12/05/2009 8:41:23 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Paladin2
You are probably right, money and victimhood go hand in hand. The muslims successfully got money for an airline in the past....
65 posted on 12/05/2009 9:04:28 AM PST by goat granny
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Very possible, particularly the legal angle. Here’s the link to AirTran’s original statement to which I referred. It’s contained in the KHOU 11 News story, not a separate story.


66 posted on 12/05/2009 12:24:28 PM PST by Eroteme
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Ooops. Here it is. http://www.khou.com/home/AirTran-e-mail-stirs-up-Internet-firestorm-78474802.html


67 posted on 12/05/2009 12:25:13 PM PST by Eroteme
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To: ROTB

The passenger manifest shows who is actually on the plane, not who is scheduled to be on it. If someone leaves the plane for any reason they must be removed from the manifest before takeoff. It is a legal document. If there would be an accident, the manifest would be used to identify the bodies and notify next of kin.


68 posted on 12/06/2009 8:58:43 AM PST by truthfree
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To: Eroteme

You would still have been on the manifest. The manifest is generated when you walk through the airbridge door. That’s what the scanner / person tearing off part of your boarding pass is for. The booking list in the computer may not match the manifest, but the manifest should always show exactly who is on the plane whether they were booked for it or not.


69 posted on 12/06/2009 9:18:57 AM PST by truthfree
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To: Eroteme

I had to look up Annie Jacobsen.

Found (among other things) via FR keyword and web:

1) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844066/posts

2) Youtube of AJ on FoxNews http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2W0jpyqeNo

The report she says at 1:10 has been declassified... and we can see “the kind of tense situation that was unfolding... and how the TSA is covering up how badly they mishandled the situation...”

SOUNDS like Airtran flight 297.

3) Another AirTran episode in Jan 2009, reported by AJ
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:V6gz109zw94J:www.theaviationnation.com/2009/01/02/muslim-family-kicked-off-airplane/+Annie+Jacobsen+muslim&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

This current situation isn’t “nothing”.

4) Not a totally honest assessment from pc Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/skyterror.asp — “false” for having been proved a dry run for assembling a bomb.

But something off was happening because reports from passengers, flight crew members, and air marshals CONFIRM that 13 “middle eastern men” passengers were “observed behaving ‘in a suspicious manner that aroused attention and concern’ ... ie, they changed seats, congregated in the aisle, arose when the fasten seat belt sign was turned on, and several of them spent excessive time in the lavatories, even carrying a large McDonalds bag in there.

In short, it was NOT normal behavior, it was behavior meant to bring concern and confusion to the other passengers.

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW (and yes, I guess I am shouting, this is SO stupid and, it would seem, avoidable) is WHY passengers like this are not TOLD to sit down?? Not to change seats? Only one at a time in the lavatory? Why aren’t these unruly passengers held accountable?


70 posted on 12/06/2009 8:48:37 PM PST by cyn
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To: CaptRon
Paging Debbie Schlussel, please pick up the white phone.

Hi, CaptRon, this is Debbie...

Why is AirTran Lying About,Attacking Its Customers?:The Answers, Documents AirTran Won’t Provide -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2401842/posts<

Tedd Petruna tells me he was indeed on the flight and, afterward, wrote a long report for the airline about what happened on the flight. He says he’s shocked that AirTran is saying the TSA officials were never there, that the airline has the guts to flat out deny what happened on that flight and in the aftermath. There are plenty of records of his being on the flight and what happened, and he’s considering suing AirTran for lying about it and defaming him. Petruna predicted he’d be attacked for telling the truth about what happened on Flight 297, and he was right. But he told me that he never thought AirTran would lie and claim he wasn’t on the flight.

71 posted on 12/06/2009 9:06:32 PM PST by cyn
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More about the documents from flight 327 that were released in 2007:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/flight327/index?tab=articles — FR archives

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/05/29/document-drop-oig-report-on-the-handling-of-flight-327/

>> Review of [Homeland Security] Department’s Handling of Suspicious Passengers Aboard Northwest Flight 327:
https://www.theaviationnation.com/documents/OIG_Report_Flight_327.pdf


72 posted on 12/06/2009 11:58:13 PM PST by cyn
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To: Finny
What is this "the passenger and a companion were asked to leave the plane ... and TSA officials allowed the man, and 12 others traveling with him to re-board, and the flight left for Houston a little more than two hours later"??

Happens all the time, thirteen people are asked to get off a plane and then allowed to get back on two hours later.... No biggie.

73 posted on 12/07/2009 12:10:07 AM PST by Lancey Howard (/sarc)
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