Posted on 12/04/2009 6:04:17 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
Rev. Keith A. Robinson of Houston is talking. Check out posts 13-20 for his contact info.
As far as the rest, I can only imagine that they were threatened by ...
Spot on.
Second, the SEVEN, possibly NINE (not the 13 or 14 offenders taken off the plane, but the seven cited in the linked article PLUS the emailer and chaplain, who ARE talking) were among I'm pretty sure it was about 60 passengers; less the 13 removed, 47, less let's split the difference and say eight who are talking. So more probably, why aren't the other roughly 39 passengers talking? Why isn't the crew talking?
Because they fear getting fired? Because they fear a spotlight? Because they AREN'T the kinds of people who want the publicity? I can tell you that while I would feel it was my civic duty to speak out in the media, professionally it would be DAMNED STUPID AND FINANCIALLY DANGEROUS for me to do to with regard to how I make a living. Put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself: would YOU be talking if you knew it might well mean you'd lose your job or at least risk losing a serious portion of your clientele?
Look, here's the deal, and it comes from real-world experience as a reporter and interviewer for print publication: MOST PEOPLE HATE TALKING TO REPORTERS. They're smart enough to hate talking to reporters, and I don't blame them.
Here's another real-world truth that every American would do well to internatlize and know for the truth that it is: just because it wasn't reported on the news doesn't mean it didn't happen. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Spot on. Money, money, money lost unless the PIC can give enough of an explanation to keep his job.
Yep — and the TSA and MSM love the strength of that threat of lawsuit because it lets them pull the wool over so many peoples’ eyes — including many FReepers whose bullsh*t meters are malfunctioning; the latest “official” summary and explanation at the top of this thread should be pegging ANY bullsh*t meter in good working order.
I should have been more specific. Why only one such email?
The crew not talking is understandable, I probably wouldn’t talk if I were them either, but most Americans aren’t so removed from 9/11 that at least a couple of others wouldn’t be sending email messages.
I sure don’t know the real story, it all sounds like something that really could happen, but the lack of other passengers speaking up is troubling.
You’ve met these people who both claim to be on the flight and know they are both rational adults and not the type that crave this kind of attenion?
To the freeper that works for Continental, I am sure they fixed their glitches...I know when Northwest made Metro their hub, they had lots of glitches to work out.
thank you for the info....:O)
Good response, thank you.
Again I stress: we cannot and do not know whether or not or how many other passengers are speaking up. What we DO know for certain is that such reports aren't surfacing in the news resources where we would expect to see them. It's a fine but crucial distinction.
More important, and I speak from quite a lot of professional experience: Go into a group of people with a microphone and tell them that you want to interview them for "the record" in the local paper for a news story; take your pick, tell them it's something benign like a man-on-the-street thing, or something like the scene of crime or disaster. Go ahead -- see how many will talk into your tape recorder and agree to be quoted. I'm serious -- try it. Really. Just see what happens.
I have done it many times when I really WAS representing the local rag. Many times -- and most of the time, depending on the topic, you have to approach eight to ten people before you find one who'll talk to you.
For that reason, that people aren't talking I find not surprising, but wholly to be expected.
Again, ask yourself honestly: If it were you with a TV microphone and a possible visit to Fox news on this topic, would you talk, after thinking it through, or would you leave it to the fellow passenger sitting next to you to do it for you? Honest, now -- what would YOU do?
I really do appreciate that you didn't get all heated and defensive! :^) Thank you!
Sorry I should have said the airline your company prefers and not the airline you work for...gg
“Is this “manifest” a list of people who actually flew, or a list of people who were supposed to fly?”
BINGO!
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What an obvious stupid, lavishly debunkable careless lie, if this “manifest” is a list of WHO FLEW, and not just a list of ticket buyers.
Are they really that stupid and idiotic, or are we wrong?
Good points in this thread, Finny.
I remember the case some years back of a woman who reported an unsettling incident in a Denny’s or something. Down south, maybe Florida. Several young men of apparent Arab descent behaving very oddly, and saying things that the woman found very alarming. At the time, Homeland Security was stressing loudly and often that people should report anything suspicious, so when they left the diner, she took down their license plate, did her duty and reported it. She landed up torn to shreds in the press and blogs, branded a nut job bigot. People tend to remember that sort of thing when considering whether they’d like to come forward.
And then there was the case of Annie Jacobsen, on the flight where 14 Syrian musicians pulled all sorts of crap. Same thing happened to her when she wrote about it. Ridiculed, vilified, made out to be a complete head case. She stuck to her guns though, and as the truth dribbled out, it became clear that she was one of few who WERE telling the truth in the whole matter. None of us would have known a darn thing about it if she hadn’t come forward and stood her ground.
Ping to TSA report that Tedd wasn’t on the plane.
His story didn’t match Tedd’s either. Plus, He wasn’t on the flight when the incident occured. He was TOLD about what happened, and then he boarded the flight (according to his story) after other passnengers got out, which left space for him.
I didn’t remember the issuing an earlier story about him. But maybe it took time for them to get proof he wasn’t on the flight. He did have a ticket for the flight.
Also, maybe they needed to get legal approval to release the information.
I don't find it troubling if the problem was with muslims. Who wants their name broadcast on the news? It would be easy once someone had a name to find out other info, including address's...I wouldn't be talking either to any reporter..
Not everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame...... Passengers probably just wanted to get their baggage and get the hell out of the airport....
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