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To: curiosity
LOL. The fact that you and some anonymous internet "guru," without any real credentials, thinks it is fraudulent doesn't make it so.

It doesn't take an 'Internet guru' to spot a fake:

Yes, if a court or law were to ask for it, that is what he would do. But no court has asked for it to date.

Yes, it's easier to spend 1.7 million on lawyers to prevent a court to see it than spend 12 dollars. Another example of Obama's evasiveness that people understand.

What makes you think he, or any court of law, takes your suspicions seriously?

What makes you think Obama is honest? When the courts find their little balls to see a case on the merits, sometime in the future.

What evidence can you provide to make a court think your suspicions anything more than a baseless, wild accusation?

Obama has not made the case that he is Hawaiian born. He can show his real birth certificate to a court, which he has not.

As does every state. So what? That doesn't stop the State Department or any other Federal agency from accepting birth certificates based on such testimony. If someone wants to assert that such a birth is fraudulant, then the burden is on him to prove it.

But but...Obama was born in a Hawaiian hospital? He would be caught in a big lie if he was born anywhere else - liar lair. So you think Obama was born where ... in a sugarcane field? States and the state department can be fooled or maybe they want to be fools. The subject here is Obama. If Obama was born anywhere else beside being born at Kapi'olani hospital would open himself up to even more and new intense scrutiny and investigations to where he was really born.

Now why don't you answer my question: what makes you think it is likely that Obama's birth was fraudulantly registered?

You like redundancy. See forged seal above. It's easy to question Obama's birth certificate or presidential legitamacy when "factcheck".org can't fact check.

362 posted on 12/07/2009 2:18:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
It doesn't take an 'Internet guru' to spot a fake:

Nice images, but how, exactly, do they prove the COLB is a fake?

Yes, it's easier to spend 1.7 million on lawyers to prevent a court to see it than spend 12 dollars.

And what evidence do you have that he's spent anything close to that amount?

What makes you think Obama is honest?

I don't think he's honest. However, unfortunately, honest is not an eligibility requirement.

Obama has not made the case that he is Hawaiian born. He can show his real birth certificate to a court, which he has not.

Again, no court has asked him to do so.

But but...Obama was born in a Hawaiian hospital?

Yes, I believe he was. I was simply stimulating, for sake of argument, that even if he wasn't, that doesn't prove he was born somewhere other than Hawaii.

He would be caught in a big lie if he was born anywhere else - liar lair.

True, which is why I think the probability of is birth record showing a home birth is about zero. So long as he has a valid birth certificate, he has no reason to lie about a home birth.

So you think Obama was born where ... in a sugarcane field?

I believe he was born in Kapiolani hospital, as he says he was.

I believe him because 1) the Hawaiian birth records show he was born in Hawaii and 2) he would have nothing to gain by lying about the hospital. There's nothing embarassing or diqualifying about being born at home.

The subject here is Obama. If Obama was born anywhere else beside being born at Kapi'olani hospital would open himself up to even more and new intense scrutiny and investigations to where he was really born.

That's only because he has said consistently to date that he was born in a hospital.

If he had said from the get-go that he was born at home, there would be nothing damaging about such a relevlation.

Why would he risk lying about being born in a hosptial if there was nothing to gain from such a lie?

You like redundancy. See forged seal above.

I see no evidence that it is forged.

364 posted on 12/07/2009 2:35:28 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Red Steel

Lucas’ Kenyan BC is as authentic as that one on the Annenberg site!!!


371 posted on 12/07/2009 10:06:26 PM PST by danamco
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