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4 Charged With Helping Washington ...[Monster] Kill 4 Police Officers
Fox News (AP) ^ | Dec. 4, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 12/04/2009 10:54:14 AM PST by La Enchiladita

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To: Spike Knotts
How about Kansas City spike?

Is that Midwest enough for ya?

Kansas City and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Kansas City, KS Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 31 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 62.66 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 302.3 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 461.3 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 1559.6 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3918.6 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 1600.9 654.4 501.5

41 posted on 12/04/2009 5:45:06 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I’m not sure why you’re so offended. You said Midwestern cities and posted data for a Southern one. I pointed out that there is a big difference in who lives in a Southern city versus a Midwestern one. I didn’t disagree with you.

Spaz out a little more, why don’t you.


42 posted on 12/04/2009 6:26:08 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts
Look, you basically asked for it, so I showed ya.

Don't cry to me about it.

I pointed out that there is a big difference in who lives in a Southern city versus a Midwestern one.

Uh, looking at the statistics above, what would that be in relationship to the crime stats? If you could be specific.

43 posted on 12/04/2009 6:34:39 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Since we’re going to quiz each other...

Is Little Rock a Southern city? Be specific. Specifically, say yes or no.


44 posted on 12/04/2009 6:36:16 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts
Looking north and south, yes, little crime rock is a central Midwestern city, that is on the south end of the central line.

I pointed out that there is a big difference in who lives in a Southern city versus a Midwestern one.

Now answer my question:

Looking at the statistics above, what would that be in relationship to the crime stats?

If you could be specific.

45 posted on 12/04/2009 6:42:41 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Spike Knotts
I pointed out that there is a big difference in who lives in a Southern city versus a Midwestern one.

Now answer my question:

Looking at the statistics above, what would that be in relationship to the crime stats?

If you could be specific.

46 posted on 12/04/2009 6:45:00 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Spike Knotts

Catfish got your tongue?


47 posted on 12/04/2009 6:48:34 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
"Looking north and south, yes, little crime rock is a central Midwestern city, that is on the south end of the central line."

Really? Can you point out a single reference to Arkansas being in the Midwest? Is that kind of like how Daytona Beach is in the Western Sahara if you look east?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States

Nope. No Arkansas or Little Rock there.

So now that you've partially admitted that Little Rock is a Southern State...when you said the following in reference to Little Rock...you were incorrect, were you not?

"Not all true Vicki...The crime in many of the major midwester cites are through the roof compared to major west coast cities. Check this out!"

You clever fellow...I see what you did there. Sneaky guy. You deliberately mispelt "midwester" so you could be technically correct, didn't you? No wait...you were just plain wrong. And I was correct in correcting you, wasn't I? So really what has happened here is that you were wrong, I corrected you, and you flew into a rage over being corrected. Note that even though nobody considers LR to be in the Midwest, and has always been a part of the South...you won't fully admit that you were wrong. Using your logic...Shreveport, LA is a "Central Midwestern" city...because it is centrally located in the country...if you ignore its actual latitude. But hey, vertically it's as Midwestern as they come. I know, I'm from there.

You seem to want to gloss over the fact that you were wrong, and I was right. Now, were you incorrect or not? Yes or no.

What is really funny is that the other two cities you posted as examples of Midwestern crime rates are actually what you claim LR to be...looking south and east, KS, MO is a Southern(Souther?) city. How about that? Strike two for you, done in by your own faulty logic.

"Looking at the statistics above, what would that be in relationship to the crime stats?"

Well, since the two additional cities you provided have demographics very similiar to their Southern neighbors...and are at least as arguably "Southern" as Arkansas is "Midwestern"...I'd say the relationship is about 1/1.
Why don't you post the rate from the other states of the Midwest? You know, the ones that aren't basically Southern states. How about some ND crime stats? How about some Nebraska stats? How about some Iowa stats?



Now...since you're cherry picking examples from what is in reality the South...I went ahead and picked you one out of the Midwest's heartland. What were you saying again?
48 posted on 12/04/2009 7:03:59 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

Oops, should have proofed it closer. I said “...Little Rock is a Southern state.” That is demonstrably false. Little Rock is either IN a Southern state or AK IS a Southern state. Bad Spike. Oh well, there are probably other errors in that opus.


49 posted on 12/04/2009 7:05:25 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

And oh man, I made an even bigger one this time. Arkansas is AR. Alaska is AK. Having lived in both, I should know this.

I’m about to concede defeat here.


50 posted on 12/04/2009 7:06:18 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: Spike Knotts

lol


51 posted on 12/04/2009 7:17:35 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Spike Knotts
You clever fellow.

Thank you!

I’m about to concede defeat here.

That would be the recommended way to go.

52 posted on 12/04/2009 7:19:39 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Spike Knotts
Can you point out a single reference to Arkansas being in the Midwest?

Easy, draw a line between the east coast and the west coast, and Arkansas appears to be relatively near the middle or close to the line that is bisecting the country from east to west.

Simple!

I pointed out that there is a big difference in who lives in a Southern city versus a Midwestern one.

Now answer my question:

Looking at the statistics above, what would that be in relationship to the crime stats?

If you could be specific.

53 posted on 12/04/2009 7:23:53 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: La Enchiladita

I have very reliable information that Maurice Clemmons was a jihadist who killed those police officers for the same reason that Nidal Malik Hasan killed 13 and wounded 38 soldiers at Fort Hood. Both were for one purpose: to kill Americans.

Now why is this fact being covered up?


54 posted on 12/04/2009 7:24:53 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I’ll bet the judge was a liberal - and had a beard...


55 posted on 12/04/2009 7:30:16 PM PST by GOPJ (Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific FRAUD in history-James Lewis)
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To: BARLF

I have direct word from a Washington State Senator that yes, Maurice Clemmons was a Islamist terrorist. They had the killing well planned and he got his indoctrination in prison.

Can you believe that this yahoo only had to pay $2000 to that bonding company called Jail Sucks Bonds?


56 posted on 12/04/2009 8:05:52 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: CharacterCounts
"If Clemmons would have received $2 million bail, we would have four more police officers alive today."

Here is a fact that will drop jaw: Maurice Clemmons only has to post $2000 bail to get out of jail! $2000! That's the absolute fact!

57 posted on 12/04/2009 8:11:35 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: MikeWUSAF
The Washington State Senate is putting new legislation together right now. One is a two strikes and you get life. The intensity down in Olympia is white hot. Heads are going to roll folks. Do you realize that this yahoo Clemmons only had to post $2000 bail to get out of jail?

And yes, Virginia, Maurice Clemmons was a %$#&^%(*&&^%%!!! Muslim terrorist. Do we get the picture yet!!!!!

58 posted on 12/04/2009 8:15:46 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: BARLF

I think you got the picture. These other posts about crime rates are missing the point. The prisons are recruiting terrorist within our population. The Big Government types would love to see terrorism break out in this country. This would be more reason to clamp down on our liberties.


59 posted on 12/04/2009 8:20:18 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: jonrick46; CharacterCounts
I'm pretty sure it was $15,000 for a $150,000 bail. Still way too low for getting out on charges of “child rape” (really it was two girls, 11 and 12).

Some of the other stuff coming out is nuts. He was investigated for drug trafficking via the mail but not enough evidence against him. Excuse me? An ex-con that OWNS three homes, and they can't bring him in and ask for some pay-stubs?

Or the Dept. of Corrections guy that noticed a sketch of a serial robber, 8+ professional takeovers with a “submachine gun” (stupid press!). The guy told the higher ups that it looked like this scum. But nobody followed it up. (”We had so many tips, we just stopped looking into them”)

It isn't just “slipping through the cracks” - it is complete incompetence all the way from Arkansas to Washington.

60 posted on 12/05/2009 12:37:23 AM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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