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you didn’t assess anyhting- al lyou did was point ot scriptures that refute your claims, and falsely claim that they couldn;’t mean what they say because in your mind, they must refer to soem different intent than what the context claims- I asked you to begin tearing apart the bible, showing us why it can’t be trusted, and that’s all you’ve got? Infact TL- you once again falsely mistate me by claiming I am such a literalist that I can’t determien between words and intent when I’ve stated that it is you folks who take htigns out of context in order to change the itnent of the context- you and folks liek Buck W (who apparently htinks you’re brilliant for hypocritically accusing me of soemthign you folks indulge in all the time, as pointed out by the FACT that I listed a number of verses that show that the word of God is God inspired through man) and you turn around and claim I ‘don’t understand content and intent’? Cripes- Do you simply not see the hypocrisy in your claims?

Tell me TL- what is the ‘intent’ and ‘ideas’ that the following verses mean- let’s get htis out o nthe table so that peopel like Buck aren’t confused any longer abotu your position and the truth of hte matter- pelase explain to us all why God’s word isn’t infact God’s word through man, and why the bible is only a collection of ‘good suggestions’ by fallible man after reading God’s own words on His own Book:

Notice the subject as outlined for us in Revelation 19:9 - “These are true words of God.” [LINK]

A. Old Testament Writers Claimed Their Message Was from God
Isaiah 1:2 - The Lord has spoken.
Jeremiah 10:1,2 - Hear the word which the Lord speaks. Thus says the Lord...
Ezekiel 1:3 - The word of the Lord came expressly.
Hosea 1:1,2 - The word of the Lord that came ... the Lord began to speak by Hosea, the Lord said...
Jonah 1:1 - The word of the Lord came to Jonah.
Micah 1:1 - The word of the Lord that came to Micah.
Zech. 1:1 - The word of the Lord came to Zechariah.

[See also Joel 1:2; Amos 1:3,6, etc; Obad. 1:1; Zeph. 1:1; Hab. 2:2; Deuteronomy 30:9,10; Numbers 12:6-8; 23:5,12,16,19; plus see references in other sections.]

B. New Testament Writers Claimed Their Message Was from God
1 Corinthians 14:37 - The things I write are commands of Lord.

Ephesians 3:3-5 - The things Paul wrote were made known to him by revelation. Formerly these things were not known but have now been revealed by the Spirit to apostles & prophets.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 - We say by the word of the Lord.

1 Timothy 4:1 - The Spirit expressly says.

[2 Thessalonians 3:12; John 12:48-50; Acts 16:32; Romans 1:16; 1 Thessalonians 1:5]

C. Inspired Men Claimed that What Other Writers Wrote Was from God.
Matthew 1:22 - A quotation was spoken by the Lord through the prophet.

Matthew 2:15 - Another passage was spoken by the Lord through the prophet.

Acts 1:16 - The Spirit spoke by the mouth of David.

Acts 28:25 - The Holy Spirit spoke by Isaiah ... prophet.

Hebrews 1:1,2 - God spoke in times past to the fathers by prophets. But now He has spoken to us by His Son.

Matthew 15:4 - Jesus Himself confirmed that Scriptures were from God. He quoted the Law revealed through Moses and said it was what God commanded.

Matthew 22:29-32 - He said the Scriptures were spoken by God.

Luke 10:16 - He also confirmed the inspiration of the New Testament for He told the apostles who wrote it: He who hears you, hears Me; he who rejects you rejects Me and rejects Him who sent Me

John 16:13 - He promised the men who penned the New Testament that the Spirit would guide them into all truth

To deny or question that the Bible writers spoke from God is to deny and reject the truthfulness of their own statements about themselves, their statements about one another, and Jesus’ statements about Scriptures.

[Matthew 19:4-6; John 10:35; 2 Chronicles 34:14-19; Isaiah 2:1-3; Matthew 22:43; Romans 1:1,2; Hebrews 3:7; 1 Peter 1:10-12; 2 Peter 1:20f; 3:15f; Acts 4:24f]

When you can show that God and htose whom God spoke through were not infact speaking for God, then you can claim I ‘don’t understand the ideas behind the the words of scriptures’ as you falsely claim. It seems that perhaps I don’t understand you particular twistings of meanings and intents in order to support positions you take that are inconsistant with hte scriptures themselves, but hte actual scriptures themselves are quite easy enough to understand

After you’re done with that- explain to us all how evolution could have happened when God said several times in His word that spirit death did NOT occure before the fall of man? Tell us how species managed to live for millions of years while they were evolving, until one day man sinned, and spirit death began? And tell us how it is that God didn’t infact breath life into the nostrils of man after stating that htat is exactly what He did? The ONLY way you can claim any of htis is by refusing to cede that the bible is the word of God, as proclaimed by God Himself, and by those whom God spoke through time and time again, and doing so, you accuse al lthose folks, and God Hismelf, of lying- but try to justify your accusations by saying that I ‘don’t udnerstand ideas behind the words of scripture’? Wow! Just Wow!


618 posted on 12/06/2009 9:20:45 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Is my not holding the same religious beliefs as you interfering with your free exercise of religion in any way?


619 posted on 12/06/2009 9:24:08 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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