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Well, I am a history major and have spent a bit of time in that area so I would not make the leap that I am blind to history although others might. My point was pretty straight-forward but perhaps it bears repeating: this is an absolutely losing issue. Despite what anyone thinks here, by putting it on a pledge/platform you gain zero for it because it will never pass. You tick off a large percent of the population and get nothing for it. It has nothing to do with personal beliefs. I don't give a rip if the churches fight against it from now until eternity, it will lose and that is guaranteed. So you pick a position to hang a flag on and ignore big issues like the Commerce Clause, while fighting over a civil rights thing. The Christian Right does not view gay marriage as a civil rights issue but that is exactly what it is. Until the 14th Amendment is repealed or a new Amendment is added, this is a right. It has not a darn thing to do with Biblical teaching because that is not the law of this land and has never been upheld by the courts as the basis.

And you earlier said you were conservative. I have no clue what part of history you are majored in, but you are describing what secularmites dish out as acceptable history. Some people will just have to have their faces rubbed into the what the people lust after to learn where it is they should not encourage, entertain, and PUSH.

You are correct gaydom's so called marriage is a losing issue, and what your history lessons have NOT taught you is who it is that has always lost big time when civil societies make their standard gaydomness. And your history lesson have neglected to teach you that Christianity is a reality not a religion. But you do have the unalienable right to ignore, reject, and live exactly as you choose.

What you do NOT have the right to do is to alter the facts and tell me what it is I must accept because I might 'tick' off a large percent of the population. As far as I can tell they are already 'ticked' off and they are practicing sodomy whenever and where ever they can. So don't be telling me this nation is suffering from a lack of freedom to practice sodomy, and all will be well when the 'purists' accept the ways of this world.

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Society will never be gay focused. You seem obsessed with having gays take over when it won’t happen.

What the US brought upon the world is justice for everyone. Don’t even start to compare us to Rome or Greece or even say those societies were homosexual because they weren’t. I doubt if you can name a homosexual focused society in the history of the world. Homosexuality is not normal but it does not mean it is ok to discriminate.

If you feel that gays do not fit into your world view, ignore them, do whatever you wish. There are people who do not like blacks and will do whatever they can to not help them off. People may be relishing the Haiti earthquakes. Doesn’t make it right.

Imagine an island of gay people, doing whatever it is you object to and then that island is wiped out by an earthquake and 500k people are dead. Is that ok? If they are all condemned to hell, isn’t the death toll God’s decision? What about an island of cyborgs? An island of Democrats? An island of atheists?

When the churches (i.e religions) accept the murder of 6 million people, which they did, can we look back and say that this started with small intolerances? Read a bit about the Holocaust and see how it grew from minor complaints about Jews to genocide in a matter of decades.