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To: Waryone

Sarah is a Feminist with the goal to “shatter the glass ceiling”. She admires Hillary and Madeleine Albright for that reason and is happy to say so.

For perspective: It is the women’s vote that has put Obama and the socialists in power. It is women who have aborted 60 million babies and taken men’s job by force of law. It is women who have given over their children to government controlled public schools. Men let it happen - just like the Garden of Eden.

As for Deborah, she is specifically identified as a prophetess (and not as a civil ruler). Her judgment is tied to her prophetic gift.

Deborah did not fulfill the role of a warrior or lead Israel into battle. When it was time for Israel to rise up, the Lord did not call or appoint Deborah to fight or command the armies of Israel. Instead, God used her, as His prophetess, to call and appoint Barak to that position.


128 posted on 12/04/2009 11:05:47 AM PST by donna (Sarah Palin: The Feminist ideal comes to fruition in the Republican Party. Betty Friedan laughs.)
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To: donna
You should look more closely at what is written if you think she was merely a prophetess: 4And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.

5And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.

Remember the title of the book and all the judges of Israel of whom Samson was one. She (not her husband) held a place of honor where she did just as Moses had done for all the people of Israel years before. Let's see was Moses a civil ruler?

There were many female prophetesses, there was only one female judge and that was Deborah, whom God raised up to lead Israel. Perhaps you need to read the entire book of Judges so that you can understand what the purpose of a judge of Israel was.

When every one did what was right in his own sight (lawlessness) God raised up a judge in Israel to lead them out of their predicament. Deborah was the female Judge who led Israel out of their travails. They didn't have presidents. Moses established a system of heads of family who were to be judges over their groups and he himself was a judge over them all. Just as Deborah was.

Read from Exodus 18.

25And Moses chose able men out of all Israel, and made them heads over the people, rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens.

26And they judged the people at all seasons: the hard causes they brought unto Moses, but every small matter they judged themselves.

Deborah was not a low level ruler/judge. She was judge over all of Israel. Just as Moses was.

I love reading and studying the Bible and I know that God can do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think. So I have learned not to put him in a man constructed box. But I have also learned that people should work within their ability and not be taken beyond their faith. If it is sin for you to consider a woman ruler, then stay within your faith.

129 posted on 12/04/2009 3:48:50 PM PST by Waryone (II Chronicles 7:14)
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