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Holdren, Lubchenco On Defensive About ClimateGate at Hearing ( Committe on Energy Independence...
Science Insider ^ | December 2, 2009 | Eli Kintisch

Posted on 12/02/2009 6:56:37 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: poodle

Holdren really needs to be sterilized - the old elastrator treatment comes to mind - heavy duty rubber bands - backed up with stainless steel hog rings. Give him time to savor his predicament. Holdren, Ezekiel Emanuel, Cass Scumslime, [the all your body parts are belong to me guy] - if these people weren’t such harmless psychos they would make Mengele look like Mary Poppens.


21 posted on 12/02/2009 8:45:15 PM PST by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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Holdren said that a congressional investigation would be the wrong choice, since the scientific community “has a process” in place for finding truth when questions about the legitimacy of data arise.


Which does not usually require keeping your source code and original data secret.

A Senator should have asked him to detail out that process...:^)

22 posted on 12/02/2009 8:45:50 PM PST by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: Marty62
" MSM trying to keep it secret. "

It's called : C.Y.A and damage control, and controlling the news, thus controlling the people.
23 posted on 12/02/2009 9:06:39 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A century of science? WTF! The global warming alarmism just flowed out from under a rock this century.


24 posted on 12/02/2009 10:03:19 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I posted the link to the webcast yesterday to several climategate threads.

I watched most of it. Pretty predictable. The "experiments" were just embarrassing. The Republicans stood tall. The Dems were surrounding the wagons. It was a good meeting that was supposed to be about Copenhagen but turned out to be all about Climategate. A big plus for our side IMHO.

25 posted on 12/03/2009 1:39:19 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: meatloaf

That jumped out at me, too.

If by this century, you mean the 21st century, you’re absolutely right. Back in the 20th century, they were screaming about a new Ice Age, but somehow in the last 10 years, the course has mysteriously reversed itself.

Even putting the roots of it back into the 20th century, when one alarmist theory after another succeeded each other (the “population bomb,” the Silent Spring hysteria that led to the banning of DDT, etc.), it doesn’t go beyond the 1960s.

But heck, what’s another lie to “scientists” like that?


26 posted on 12/03/2009 3:31:30 AM PST by livius
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In reading Harry’s file, even I could figure out these guys were busy trying to prove the unprovable.

My thoughts on this are fairly basic. The religion of Gaia, the cult of GW/CC all have one tenet they follow.
MAN is God.
Therefore MAN has this all powerful control over nature.
I have been hearing info that the earths axis is minutly changing.
Some suggest that this was the cause of the original ice age.
So by the GW/CC thinking....would they suggest ever human on earth move to the opposite side to stop the process. Or just kill off the side with to many people to even it out.

I am not being ridiculous, I honestly think these GW/CC people REALLY think like this scenerio.

If you think this is stupid ....well there you have it.
The envirowackos are STUPID.


27 posted on 12/03/2009 4:48:48 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"We have manipulated the whole process," said Lubchenco, meaning that man-made emissions had led to warmer temperatures by putting the natural system out of balance.

NOT a provable statement. Lubchenco would have to cite the location of the "control" Earth where the precise conditions that exist on this planet occurred on the control Earth, with the exception of mankind's industrial emission of CO2. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have that control Earth experiment data available. So her statement is a supposition, yet she asserts it as if it were an axiom

28 posted on 12/03/2009 6:03:07 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: InterceptPoint

Thanks for spending the time and giving a report.


29 posted on 12/03/2009 6:58:05 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: livius; 20 years too late
There is an article ...where Dr. Tim Ball tells how this all got started,...by Maurice Strong a Canadian...:

How the world was misled about global warming and now climate change

It was mentioned at post #40 on this thread...by 20 years too late :

Obama science advisers grilled over hacked e-mails (It's ON!)

30 posted on 12/03/2009 2:29:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“”These are not numbers taken out of the air,” protested Lubchenco.””

Time is chimeric in our experience, a fluid in which we glide, unaware and unconcerned, eliding here, eluding there as conciousness allows — until epihany strikes.

Here we are, caught up in a scheme of apparently no one’s making, poised finger above the red button, when the dumbest of all statements ever destined for posterity emanates from the shallowest of places:

“These are not numbers taken out of the air,”...

This, based on the “measured” temperature of the very air, the Linus Blanket of mankind, the atmosphere; are uttered with a gust of CO2 in defense of the purity of an undefiled earth, a thwarted transforming, by one whose authority is subject to the whims of those she portends to speak without bothering to listen.

MAXIMIZE MOMENTUM, MINIMIZE FRICTION, EMBRACE INERTIA.


31 posted on 12/03/2009 8:45:02 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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