Posted on 12/02/2009 6:13:27 PM PST by Colofornian
Let me get this straight: The more people understand about Romney's Mormon faith, including his worldview that he either thinks he's a "god-in-embryo" (lds leader language) or will become an after-this-life "god," problems "melt away?" Really?
So if Americans had certain problems with Obama's old pastor, and aren't sure where Obama stands on those issues. But if Obama came right out & was up front with those -- plus told them he was either a "messiah-in-embryo" or will be a this-life or other-life Messiah -- all O probs would "melt away?"
From the column: "The good news is that accurate information about such unpopular religious groups can help the cause of religious tolerance in America."
(You know, I'd think I might settle for a "baby step" among Romney & his fellow Mormons if they'd stop calling 75% of his base as "apostates." Note: The official Lds teaching is that between the first and third centuries, the entire church of Jesus Christ supposedly apostatized -- and the generations that followed were in like camp. So much for "religious tolerance" when your average Mormon & Mormon politician believes Christians are "apostate," "corrupt" and 100% of their creeds are an "abomination" to their god...Those aren't my words; those are Joseph Smith's word now "sacerdotally" embedded with Lds "scripture")
I'm not exactly sure why this columnist expects a "kum-bah-ya" moment when Mitt, if he's true to the faith of his fathers, is no different than a Muslim who tells me as a Christian that I'm an "infidel."
From the column re: the Manhattan Declaration: ...the important new statement by Christian leaders suggests that Romney may face even greater religious resistance in 2012."
And Jim Robinson has stepped it up as well!
IMO, this sidesteps a much more fundamental issue.
The man is a big government liberal. He should be disqualified as a head of state long before the subject of his religion can even be brought into the discussion.
LOL!
I dunno.
Anyone who has delusions of godhood should be disqualified on that alone.
From the column: The good news: When people understood his Mormon faith, the bias melted away.
Let me get this straight: The more people understand about Romney’s Mormon faith, including his worldview that he either thinks he’s a “god-in-embryo” (lds leader language) or will become an after-this-life “god,” problems “melt away?” Really?
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Only because the LDS PR machine is hiding what the LDS really believe, “milk before meat” and sadly, most Christians will go “oh, ok, I guess they really AREN’T all that different”.
It is only when you study their history and doctrines do you see things like godhood, the white horse prophecy, a desire to return to theocracy.
Another factor is the “i am going to prove I am not a bigot by voting for a minority” attitude. That tactic got the Obamanation votes.
Rose color glasses, PR version.
Got hand it to them they have perfected the art....
I am no big fan of Romney, but don’t you think everyone should be giving Ried the business about being mormon? Na, why? because he’s a lib moron who happens to be mormon and he gets a pass. I think we should be more concerend with the muslims and thier so called religion, no?
Something LDS Inc. reveres above Joe Smith himself.
And they hold Smith in higher regard than Christ so...
“In Romney’s case “our study suggests that Romney’s supporters would do well to encourage those who are troubled by his faith to become better informed about Mormonism.”
Oh my gosh! ... gasping for air, laughing!
It’s because people aren’t “informed” about mormonism!!!
Reporting for this mission, Sir!
In short, mormonism believes more bizarre things than any religion I know of, including scientology. There is, however, less couch jumping than scientology...
Who says they aren’t?
We are in a multi front, multi faceted battle here.
“(Romney’s) candidacy, however, faces a major obstacle that should concern all Americans: religious intolerance. Mitt Romney’s membership in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka the Mormon church) clearly hurt him in 2008.
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Editor Nana to the rescue...
“(Romney’s) candidacy, however, faces a major obstacle that should concern all conservative Americans: political intolerance. Mitt Romney’s life long liberal stance on the issues that are important to conservatives clearly hurt him in 2008.
(Note to Joel: add the following)
“Romney was intolerant of the conservative base of the Republican party and their feelings about abortion, gay rights, the Second Amendment, big government, mandated universal health care, cap and trade, illegal aliens, the military, the war on terror, and the economy.”
There, Nana fixed it for you, Joel...
You’re good to go...
:)
Kid do ya see anyone here running out to vote for Reid ???
or asking you for money or your vote for him ???
or calling you a pig, or a Nazi or a bigot or the anti-Christ cause ya wont ???
Or swooning over Harry’s big hair and Botoxed and strangely “tanned” face and wanting to be his first second wife for time or eternity or both ???
Well ????
Merry Smithmas!
That if the above was the case, FR & similar sites would be swarming w/tens of thousands of electronic Mormon "missionaries" -- "cluing" us in on Mormon "realities." As you astutely sized up: Reporting for this mission, Sir! (Or at least, if not now, that's what we have to "look forward to" in 2010 thru 2012). But, no, I somehow don't think that'll be the case. And why is that? Well, you nailed it on the back end, too:
In short, mormonism believes more bizarre things than any religion I know of, including scientology.
You see, that's where it gets a bit "dicey" for the Mormon online "missionary" who's trying to "red-carpet" Mitt. You see, if you're a door-to-door Lds missionary, it's always easy to hit the escape button & exit to the next doorway. It's also "easy" to engage in hit&run soundbites.
But online? Where you might actually be challenged as not conveying what Mormons really believe 'cause online citations of what Lds leaders have said actually exist & can be readily pulled up?
I mean, how many Mormons really want to try to openly defend Mormonism by reporting to the e-Bizzaro frontlines by raising their Boy Scout hand & saying, Reporting for this mission, Sir!???
I think the answer is found in how Greg West, the Lds spam guy, reported how much fewer Lds FR postings dropped off this summer. (Gee. What a time to falter. Right when the "research experts" are calling for Mitt missionaries to report to the frontline!)
When people understood his Mormon faith, the bias melted away?
Shouldn’t that be more like “When people heard Mormons spin and obscure the truth about his Mormon faith, the bias melted away”?
On what planet?
Your post doesn’t make a lot of sense.
I don’t really know anything about Reid, and I don’t know that he’s getting a pass for being a lib mormon when Romney is a lib mormon and doesn’t.
Who’s giving Reid a pass?
I am more concerned about muslims and their so-called religion. Mormons are not in the habit of blowing people up and slitting their throats in the name of their god. They have enough sense to realize that would be bad PR and that the family values thing works better. I can live with them for neighbors better than I could with a muslim.
I need look no farther than the big "D" behind his name, Mitt on the other hand, pretends to be a Republican and a conservative one at that.
May the big # 22 bestow on reid at the blackjack game of life!
“In Romney’s case “our study suggests that Romney’s supporters would do well to encourage those who are troubled by his faith to become better informed about Mormonism.”
Be better informed about Mormonism, from former Mormons:
http://outofmormonism.libsyn.com/
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