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To: truth_seeker
Look at the performance of hybrids, the highway miles compared to city miles have very little gain. Sometimes the highway mileage even goes down. Also compare to same models non-hybrid.

Honda Civic - city 40 - hwy 45 Hybrid
Honda Insight - city 40 - hwy 43 Hybrid

Lexus GS 450h - city 22 - hwy 25 Hybrid
Lexus HS 250h - city 35 - hwy 34 Hybrid

Chevrolet Malibu - city 22 - hwy 30 (2.4l, non-Hybrid)
Chevrolet Malibu - city 26 - hwy 34 (2.4l, Hybrid)

Ford Fusion - city 23 - hwy 34 (2.5l, non-Hybrid)
Ford Fusion - city 41 - hwy 36 (2.5l, Hybrid)

Nissan Altima - city 23 - hwy 32 (2.5l, non-Hybrid)
Nissan Altima - city 35 - hwy 33 (2.5l, Hybrid)

Toyota Camry - city 22 - hwy 32 (2.5l, non-Hybrid)
Toyota Camry - city 33 - hwy 34 (2.4l, Hybrid)

Chevrolet Silverado P/U - city 13 - hwy 19 (6.2l, non-Hybrid)
Chevrolet Silverado P/U - city 21 - hwy 22 (6.0l, Hybrid)

Ford Escape - city 21 - hwy 28 (2.5l, non-Hybrid)
Ford Escape - city 34 - hwy 31 (2.5l, Hybrid)

Mazda Tribute - city 21 - hwy 28 (2.5l, non-Hybrid)
Mazda Tribute - city 34 - hwy 31 (2.5l, Hybrid)

BMW X6 - city 13 - hwy 18 (4.4l, non-Hybrid)
BMW X6 - city 17 - hwy 19 (4.4l, Hybrid)

All values above from:
2010 Fuel Economy Guide
EPA / Dept of Energy
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/FEG2010.pdf

24 posted on 12/02/2009 6:11:31 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

The 2.0 liter turbodiesel Jetta get 30 mpg city and 40 mpg highway.

Of course you are correct about hybrid not improving highway mpg by much if any.

I do expect better mpg from a 1.5 liter turbodiesel than the 2.0 liter equivalent, however.

I claim no expertise, but read a lot of car highlights.

There are some models coming out with different technology-where the electric motor always powers the car, and the gas engine recharges the battery, after it goes off full electric.

Those include Chevy Volt, plus Fisker Karma and others. They are epected to get still higher mpg.

Anyway, these are interesting times, as the age of truly higher mpg emerges.

I know a few Prius owners who like their cars a lot. One claimed 60 mpg last weekend, but didn’t state the type of driving.


39 posted on 12/02/2009 11:05:54 PM PST by truth_seeker
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