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Yes, thank you! Bookmarked for after Christmas. I found a couple of the books on my list for $1.99 at "my" fav used book search engine/db. Behe wrote one, too, "The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism".

A word about the dragonfly. I kind of skimmed over that, but it's not impossible. The problem would be rewiring the brain to coordinate that many wings at the same time, and a lot more. I'm always on the lookout for anomalies in nature and my garden. I'll just cite a couple examples, and there must have been a recessive gene to have caused it, not necessarily a whole new genome. On my garden group, we were talking about various Asian lilies. They have six petals. One person posted a photo, and I'm sure it was genuine, of a perfect, symmetrical, 8-petalled, beautiful lily. I told her to let it go to seed and save the seeds, but she had deadheaded it! That might have been worth some bucks if she could have gotten it to breed true for a few generations, takes time and patience.

You should see some of the amazing crosses passionate-but-amateur hybridizers do. I've watched some on a daylilies forum, also one who did zinnias. This all has to do with hybridizing which is cross pollinating, but it's related. From one batch of seeds where there has been something unusual, only a few come true with a lot of others with different attributes from the same seed pod.

I'd better quit talking about that. Will just say that a seed company had introduced a new rudbeckia which caused a stir because people weren't getting ones like the picture and were disappointed; only one had some pretty ones like the promo photo. It takes several generations to select out for the traits you want and even then, some will exhibit regressive forms. I ordered the same flower as a plant, and it was supposed to be single like those who had grown theirs from seed, think there was just one source for those seeds last year. Got 3 plants. Two were single, and one turned out double/triple/multiple. So it's fun when it happens. That one rudbeckia of mine (I saved a lot of seed) with all the extra petals make me believe that a dragonfly they're bickering about is possible, just more complex.

Now rudbeckias don't have brains, but something has to be triggered to tell them how many petals to make. I'm guessing that my odd one got open pollinated by some different variety of doubles growing in the same field.