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To: Aliska
Some FReepers act like you're ignorant if you don't accept evolution unquestioningly which seems to be the dominating thought out there.

It's simply beyond their comprehension that someone could consider the ToE and decide against it.

And dissent is NOT allowed.

So much for objectivity.

52 posted on 12/01/2009 8:35:39 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
And dissent is NOT allowed.

So much for objectivity.

That's what bothers me the most which is telling. I've got a reading list compiled, starting with the Catholic biochemist Behe who had believed it was true since his Catholic school days without questioning and on into his career, then started belatedly questioning and felt alone for some time.

Dr. Mike Behe, "The Origin of a Skeptic"

So far I've got Donald Prothero, "Imaginary Evidence for Evolution"; Siegfried Scherer; Jon Wells (Embryologist); Michael Denton, "Evolution, A Theory in Crisis"; Phil Johnson, and Richard Dawkins, "Blind Watchmaker" (pro evo). Some of the afore-mentioned may not have written articles or books.

I started asking myself some serious questions about what Jesus and the NT writers said. I'm really not prepared to argue it one way or the other at this point but am going to try to track down some of those books, probably better read Darwin, too.

61 posted on 12/01/2009 9:10:01 PM PST by Aliska
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To: metmom
It's simply beyond their comprehension that someone could consider the ToE and decide against it.

And dissent is NOT allowed.

Dissent is the essence of science. The problem creationists have is that on a scientific level the dissent has to be on the same level.

It's always hard to engage a well established theory. Best way to do it is to offer some better results for observations.

Next problem is for several not so scientifically skilled people to understand even though one theory might be wrong (By the way, that can't be true for a scientific theory!) that another theory therefore is true. There are endless ways to describe nature.

Why a scientific theory can't be wrong at all is quite simple. To reach status of a theory a hypothesis has to fulfill several logical requirements.
- Comply within it's range to observations
- Prohibit possible observations
- and therefore has to be refutable

Therefore Beheism or is it called IDism is not scientific. Until now a DESIGNER(TM) is allowed to do everything therefore it is not limited by any prohibitions.

Newton “laws” are still usable although they are not correct in all ways. You have to keep in mind the limitations. So there is still truth within these “laws” but limited.

Until now I'm not aware of any limitation of the theory of evolution except the limitations implied within the theory.

83 posted on 12/02/2009 6:56:46 AM PST by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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