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1 posted on 11/29/2009 12:09:20 PM PST by DBlake
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To: DBlake

Not to wax philisophical here but what IS legal?


2 posted on 11/29/2009 12:13:02 PM PST by JoeMac (''Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more''. Popeye The Sailorman)
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Secretly told?

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Regime change in Iraq became a stated goal of United States foreign policy when Public Law 105-338 (the "Iraq Liberation Act") was signed into law by U.S. President Bill Clinton. The act directed that:

"It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

3 posted on 11/29/2009 12:13:41 PM PST by shoptalk (Defend principles, not personalities. Personalities will always break your heart.)
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Was the Iraq war illegal? Poll


stupid question. there exists something like a legal war?
war is war.


4 posted on 11/29/2009 12:14:57 PM PST by darkside321
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secretly told that the United States were set on "regime change" in Iraq

Secret? Clinton said it was official US policy.

6 posted on 11/29/2009 12:16:14 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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Was the election of Barack Obama legal?

Where’s the polls on that?


7 posted on 11/29/2009 12:16:19 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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Ministers in Britain were secretly told that the United States were set on "regime change" in Iraq

What a huge secret. Congress passed a law stating that and Bill Clinton signed it in 1998.

Iraq Liberation Act

9 posted on 11/29/2009 12:16:55 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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Wars are either just or unjust, not legal or illegal. The Iraq war is just.

“Laws of war” is a goofy concept to begin with. Laws much have an enforcement mechanism ... the UN cannot exercise mandatory enforcement.

The laws of war are written by the victors, and are largely irrelevant during the war. The losers are prosecuted, the winners are not.

Not only that ... but laws of war are entirely unenforceable against more powerful militaries. If the US truly committed a war crime — who could do anything about it? The UN could raise the greatest military force it could muster, and we could likely crush it where it stood.

A law without an enforcement provision is a legal irrelevancy.

SnakeDoc


14 posted on 11/29/2009 12:19:37 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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The power was given to the President by congessional vote to “use force”. That is pretty clear to me.


16 posted on 11/29/2009 12:21:27 PM PST by eyedigress
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I like the philosophical question posed as to what makes a war really legal?


17 posted on 11/29/2009 12:22:03 PM PST by dog breath
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Wow! Unexpected results.


18 posted on 11/29/2009 12:22:25 PM PST by Ditter
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I found this the other day. Doesn’t make Cheney look too good. Curious how much is true. The first article. Just read down some.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/11/guest-post-instead-of-fixing-the-u-s-economy-or-creating-jobs-for-americans-obama-will-spend-the-money-in-afghanistan-and-iraq.html

parsy, who is watching the Monk marathon


20 posted on 11/29/2009 12:23:23 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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Remember war is good, until it conflicts with a leftist and Homo-Leninist agenda; just look at Africa, Middle East and Bosnia…


22 posted on 11/29/2009 12:28:02 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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I was secretly told by ministers in Britain that they were going to lie with this caper.

Who you gonna believe? ;-)

23 posted on 11/29/2009 12:28:25 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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There is no INTERNATIONAL LAW since there is NOT ONE BIG GOVERNMENT of the world!

Case closed!
This is a bad HOAX from the libtard propaganda machine(obaMAO involved?)


24 posted on 11/29/2009 12:29:39 PM PST by Ulysse (a)
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i’d say that bush’s intellegance on iraq was probally 80%- i would have liked to have seen photos, or a team go in there to varify- the commander in chief needs to be 100% positive before he puts americans soldiers in harms way. i think bush was alittle aggressive towards iraq, but it is a 2 headed coin also- are we better off with S. Hussein gone? yeah, i think so


25 posted on 11/29/2009 12:37:17 PM PST by chicken head
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“Either war is obsolete or men are’’.


26 posted on 11/29/2009 12:37:57 PM PST by JoeMac (''Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more''. Popeye The Sailorman)
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People don't understand that Bush didn't authorize the war, Congress did.
Bush just acted on it to protect our interests and freedoms.
Rightfully so.
27 posted on 11/29/2009 12:42:54 PM PST by MaxMax (Obamao can't play in the Olympic reindeer games)
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To: DBlake

Was the Iraq war illegal?

Yes 50%

No 50%

You voted: No


28 posted on 11/29/2009 12:50:59 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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It wasn’t illegal.

We were in a state of cessation of hostilities form Gulf War I.

Iraq had repeatedly broken 17 of the 29 requirements for a continued “Cessation of Hostilities”.

In the lense of 911, we were done and had every right to resume hostilities. However, we went to the U.N. and sought their stamp of approval, for resumption and to enforce our 1998 Iraq Liberation Act, which was signed into law by all 100 Senators, at that time and Bill Clinton, the then current President.

The United States acted as lead in a coalition of several countries and with the consent of the U.N.

Was the Iraq war Illegal? No. It had lasted 12 years longer than necessary.


29 posted on 11/29/2009 12:51:52 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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The legal basis for troops in Iraq was a UN Mandate.

When that expired, Dec 31, 2008, the legal basis was the Status of Forces Agreement aka Iraq Security Agreement

33 posted on 11/29/2009 1:05:52 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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