SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEAs Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals stored on paper and magnetic tape were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.
The great climate change science scandal EU figurehead says climate change a myth The admission follows the leaking of a thousand private emails sent and received by Professor Phil Jones, the CRUs director. In them he discusses thwarting climate sceptics seeking access to such data.
In a statement on its website, the CRU said: We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.
The CRU is the worlds leading centre for reconstructing past climate and temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly how its data were compiled. That is now impossible.
Roger Pielke, professor of environmental studies at Colorado University, discovered data had been lost when he asked for original records. The CRU is basically saying, Trust us. So much for settling questions and resolving debates with science, he said.
Jones was not in charge of the CRU when the data were thrown away in the 1980s, a time when climate change was seen as a less pressing issue. The lost material was used to build the databases that have been his lifes work, showing how the world has warmed by 0.8C over the past 157 years.
He and his colleagues say this temperature rise is unequivocally linked to greenhouse gas emissions generated by humans. Their findings are one of the main pieces of evidence used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which says global warming is a threat to humanity.
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To: joinedafterattack
Just a new twist on an old excuse:
“The dumpster ate my homework.”
33 posted on
11/29/2009 8:35:23 AM PST by
Erasmus
(Sid's oxymorons: Postmodern Intellectualism.)
To: joinedafterattack
I notice this item was buried on the “environment’ tab of The UK Times online —it should be front page news. I had to search for it.
When will this astonishing global scam get the high profile boradcast it deserves?
To: joinedafterattack
I have a Bachelors and Masters Degree in Meteorology and had to produced two published research papers to get my degrees.
I can tell you that throwing away data is something that is extremely rare. You NEVER throw away data. Especially if that data is the basis for your research.
The only time I've seen data thrown away is when one lacks the ability to convert it from some archaic medium to a new one (e.g. old computer tapes to DVD etc). In the case of East Anglia, it appears the original data was on paper. You can always hire some undergrads to transfer this to computer archives.
Something is clearly not right here...
37 posted on
11/29/2009 8:43:22 AM PST by
F. dAnconia
(We say: "It is, therefore, I want it. They say: "I want it, therefore it is")
To: joinedafterattack
If this counts as “science,” the “Church of Scientology” should be put in charge of the whole Climate Change Carbon Caboodle -— and Trofim Lysenko should come back from the dead and claim all those Nobel Prizes.
38 posted on
11/29/2009 8:44:40 AM PST by
Mrs. Don-o
(Opportunity may knock once, but temptation bangs on your front door forever.)
To: joinedafterattack
Ooops! It's beginning to feel like the final chapters of Michael Chrighton’s “State of Fear.”
This, when coupled with all those hacked e-mails that discuss problems with the data, looks pretty damning.
Whattya bet there's a spare copy all set to be traded to a DA somewhere in return for some junk scientist's immunity? What are the odds one or more lab assistants turns up dead? It would be interesting to watch Intrade.com list a few of these questions. Gotta get more popcorn today.
39 posted on
11/29/2009 8:45:23 AM PST by
Mobties
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We went to the USC-ucla game last night, and met several friends for a tailgate. All are very successful, busy people. Two USC JDs, one ucla JD , one Harvard JD, the the rest were from Cal , U PA (Warton), William and Mary - you get the picture. All are Reps -one dem. Most get their news from traditional sources. Three had NEVER HEARD of climate gate - the rest had heard very little. Only b/c I read FR I had even heard of it and knew the details.
So, folks , don’t assume that there is some public outcry about this in the general population. When the press refuses to cover something, the silence can be effective.
40 posted on
11/29/2009 8:45:31 AM PST by
uscabjd
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The revised figures were kept, but the originals stored on paper and magnetic tape were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building. What a bunch of BS. They can afford a new building but they can't spare a few dozen square feet to store data? Even if that's true, they couldn't scan the paper data and convert the magnetic tape data to store it on a hard drive? Hard drives cost about $150 per terabyte and are about the size of an average textbook, so it's glaringly obvious that they're full of crap.
To: joinedafterattack
And amazingly, but not surprisingly, my local lib rag refuses to print any mention of this scandal. We’re still getting socked with the usual warmist propaganda. Only letters to the editor from conservatives mentions the scandal.
43 posted on
11/29/2009 8:50:24 AM PST by
driftless2
(for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
To: joinedafterattack
Huge news and disturbing...where are the arrests and trials?
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SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based. It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
This is a serious breach of the scientific method. All results produced by the missing data set are now suspect; ZERO recommendations by the UEA and other users are acceptable; all findings are wiped out because they cannot be replicated. This is a show stopper, IMO.
...back to the drawing board, to reconstruct the original raw data. This may take years!
50 posted on
11/29/2009 8:54:40 AM PST by
olezip
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Isn’t that just so damned convenient?
Want to bet there is a University somewhere that DOES have the raw data? It just has to be found. At this point, nothing that has been filtered through the CRU is even slightly credible.
51 posted on
11/29/2009 8:55:13 AM PST by
Danae
(No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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Those hackers have done the world a huge favor, just like Hannah Giles and James O’Keefe. They should be given medals. Sorry Al Gore and Immelt, Boxer and Kerry. I’ll bet the markets go short on alternative energy stocks next week. And I hope Al Gore loses millions!!!
54 posted on
11/29/2009 8:56:21 AM PST by
SueRae
To: joinedafterattack
In a statement on its website, the CRU said: We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.
WTF are they thinking. You call this science?
Science calls for replicating data to check accuracy. No data replication, no accuracy.
56 posted on
11/29/2009 8:57:35 AM PST by
ully2
(ully)
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If the data is gone how is anybody supposed to do a “peer review”, like Egg Bagels Jr. said?
To: joinedafterattack
It’s called a cover up and fraud. The UK had a Serious Fraud police unit and they should be called. People should be going to jail for this. I doubt they will.
59 posted on
11/29/2009 9:00:07 AM PST by
Frantzie
(Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
To: joinedafterattack
The UEAs Climatic Research Unit or department should be closed and the director prosecuted. The Dean should be fired.
60 posted on
11/29/2009 9:00:14 AM PST by
Errant
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This story was first reported last summer (to my knowledge), but the email revelations give it more context and meaning...
hh
65 posted on
11/29/2009 9:03:22 AM PST by
hoosier hick
(Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
To: joinedafterattack
Prosecute,,make these guys sweat under the fear of a long prison sentence...one of them will break and rat out the others.
68 posted on
11/29/2009 9:07:34 AM PST by
joelt
To: joinedafterattack
SCIENTIFIC MISCONDUCT OF THE FIRST ORDER.
ONE NEVER DESTROYS ORIGINAL DATA.
PURPOSEFUL MISCONDUCT ...
69 posted on
11/29/2009 9:10:24 AM PST by
dodger
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Needs more exclamation marks.
70 posted on
11/29/2009 9:11:30 AM PST by
savedbygrace
(You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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