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To: Steely Tom
I find it very hard to believe that at least some of this data wasn't archived, or at least written down in notebooks.

It is unbelievable...unless they never used real data.?!?

If the data really does prove AGW, they would have guarded to preserve the only proof a real scientist would believe.

If the data really did not prove AGW without "adjusting" for the desired outcome, then I suspect they would still have saved it because future research may be possible.

Either they never had data, or they are lying their pants off. Either case is criminal, prosecutable, and academic misconduct worthy of losing their positions and credentials.

65 posted on 11/29/2009 8:52:01 AM PST by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: SteamShovel
I know. It really is obvious, isn't it, to anyone who's ever done real science, even if it was only as a research assistant in undergraduate school.

They made it up. They simply made it up, out of whole cloth. It's entirely BS, from top to bottom. You know it and I know it.

Vast amounts of research funding were available; enough to keep dozens of graduate students paid for years (I mean dozens for every professor on the list, of course). Not only that, but swim against the tide and you got squat, at best. Zeroed out. Not a penny. At worst, you were accused of being a bought-and-paid-for shill of the oil industry. No funding. No graduate students. No cute, female graduate students. Even if the broad public doesn't see it, their collegues certainly do. It's not the first time scientists have sold out in order to get a place at the head table. It won't be the last either.

66 posted on 11/29/2009 9:10:30 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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