Another disgusting creep (Climategate)

Toronto Star

[stevenl77]

From the "Toronto Star", by columnist Peter Gorrie:

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/731420--scientists-were-angry-but-they-didn-t-lie

Excerpt from article: =============> In one email, the research unit's director, Phil Jones, refers to work by another scientist, Michael Mann, published in the journal Nature: "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series ... from 1961 ... to hide the decline."

"Trick" doesn't refer to sleight of hand; it's jargon for a good, useful solution to a research problem. The problem in question relates to the fact that one method used to estimate temperatures over centuries – measuring tree rings – doesn't give good recent results. But actual observations, the "real temps," were available. <=========

Doesn't give good "recent" results? "RECENT"? Oh, so, during a time period when we actually had thermometers around the world measuring temperatures, it turns out that it doesn't match the tree ring observations. But of course, all the tree ring data during time periods we didn't have thermometers is all accurate, though. It just so happens that tree ring data is only inaccurate from 1960 onward.

Actually, IMO, what this means is that the tree ring data is a fraud, and that this is exposed by actual temperatures post 1961. In order to "hide" this fraud, scientists stopped tree ring data at 1960 and then added in what they claim to be recorded temperatures from 1961 onwards, thus "hiding the decline" -- hiding the fact that this ridiculous tree ring data that supposedly tells us what the temperatures were centuries ago is a sham, and that they knew this before the crook Michael Mann ever came up with his fake hockey stick chart.

In fact, Mann admitted that this is what the "hide the decline" means: "Mann said his trick, or "trick of the trade," for the Nature chart was to combine data from tree-ring measurements, which record world temperatures from 1,000 years ago until 1960, with actual temperature readings for 1961 through 1998." Source: http://www.dailypress.com/news/national/dp-news_global-warming_1128nov28,0,4449849.story

Oh, sure. Let's cut off the tree ring data at 1960, and then substitute in actual temperatures. After all, if the tree ring data kept going, it would show a "decline." We couldn't have that. And then the actual temperatures themselves are probably manipulated and fudged.

This doesn't really require a vast conspiracy of thousands of scientists. It only requires a smaller group of persons in key positions who have control over actual raw data.

Creeps.

[TexasCajun]

The world reports as State Media dithers!

[clamper1797]

It only requires a smaller group of persons in key positions who have control over actual raw data.

And a complicit treasonous media and a thoroughly corrupt government

[InterceptPoint]

The "trick" of substituting "real" temperature data for the post-1960 tree-ring values is, I assume, starting to be understood by those who are following the ClimateGate story. Less well understood is another fact pointed out near the bottom of the article:

"And then the actual temperatures themselves are probably manipulated and fudged. "

That is likely to be true. These guys have been fudging all their temperature data for years so when they make the substitution for the post-60's tree-ring data you can't trust that data either. But of course it was "peer reviewed". These guys have made "peer review" a dirty word. One of these days some Freeper is going to get mad and call some liberal science-type a "dirty peer-reviewer". You can count on it.

[Dick Bachert]

Global Warming guru Algore – wearing his ever present Nobel medal – is seen here en-route to an important “scientific” conference in Nassau hosted by the UN/IPCC where he was to be the keynote speaker.

Topics on the agenda were to have included “Finding a Good Bail Bondsman,” “Not ALL Criminal Lawyers Are Sharks,” “Changing Careers for Dummies,” “You Want Fries With That?,” “How To Encrypt Emails,” “The Best Prison Jobs,” “Getting Along With Your Cellmate” and “Getting Used to Sleeping On Your Back.”

A sudden – and unfortunate – blast of what the “scientist” in charge of the conference termed “global warming” caused the meeting to be rescheduled until Algore can be thawed some time next Spring – assuming there will BE one.

[Clioman]

Here’s a first-rate explanation of how the ‘trick’ was performed:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/28/how-the-trick-was-pulled-off/#more-13328

Watt’s Up With That is one of the premier blogs for serious analysis of the AGW menace, BTW.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

.. and on the night of 27 Nov CoastToCoastAM's one million-plus (millions of?) radio listeners heard Art Bell, filling in for the regular host, say that he'd looked at the documents and the emails and there is nothing to them. Nothing. Not one hint of wrong doing.

The fraudternity of global warming creeps has become desperate. Does the reckless response mean that violence is the next step? I bet we see it.

[Oldpuppymax]

Using the word “trick” or not, doesn’t it sound a bit suspicious to talk about adding in the REAL temps to HIDE the decline?? Or is it just me!

[jd777]

Oh those prickly scientists! They’ve got their own little world we don’t understand!

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

I agree with your comments, but you are supposed to put the article text in the box that says “Body of Thread” and your comments go in the box that says “Body of Comment.” The way you did it makes it look like the author agrees with you.

[Ditto]

This doesn't really require a vast conspiracy of thousands of scientists. It only requires a smaller group of persons in key positions who have control over actual raw data.

Control over the raw data which they treat as 'state secrets' as well as the vaunted 'peer review' process which they turned into a total joke by stacking the journals only with compliant editors and reviewers. It's like John Gotti and a New York jury... if you can't buy them off, intimidate them, and if the intimidation doesn't work, destroy them by calling them deniers, flat-earthers, or tools of Exxon.

I saw that Hollywood dope (can't recall his name now) doing a meltdown on Stewart Varney's show screaming all that matters is peer review literature. The peer review process has been destroyed by these people. It is nothing but a joke anymore. If you disagree with them, they will destroy you.

[seton89]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufr58ON689Y

Ed Begley pointy-fingers Stuart Varney.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !