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To: Girlene
You were saying ...

....and as to the question of WHY the military should send these Navy SEALs through a court martial to begin with, given all we DO know about this “detainee”.....you have not answered

Well, as everyone is aware, not all information is released about what happens in these things until a trial actually happens. That's when we get the full story. Until then all we do is guess and speculate.

We can state what has been reported, but at the same time, I think everyone is aware that we don't have the full story. We never do until a trial is completed.

An obvious statement is that the people around those people who were charged thought that something needed to be reported (at least from a news report that I read, and of course that would be obvious, otherwise, there would be no charges). And then, past that, (that is..., past the fact that someone, or several, thought something needed to be reported), the ones in command also thought that charges needed to be brought. Again, this is stating the obvious, otherwise, there would be "no case" here.

That much we do know, "by the obvious"...

Now, to get the "full story" we have to wait until we hear about the proceeding from the trial and then we'll know. And past that, we also wait to see if the charges can be proven or not, and if they are found guilty or not.

If they are not guilty, you'll hear about that. I'm sure the people who will be hearing the case will take their responsibility very seriously and will bring it to final resolution with a full hearing and an inpartial decision based on the facts that they are presented with.

And that is our system, be it military or civilian.

The full answer to your question will have to wait until the final resolution of the case. Prior that that final resolution, either you or I or others simply don't know and don't have all the facts.

137 posted on 11/28/2009 4:13:26 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
Well thanks for that answer, Star Traveler, as to "why" these SEALs were brought up on charges. This is what I got from your reply. We don't know all the facts, something must have happened to have the charges preferred, we'll know once the Article 32 or court martial is over.

I asked for an opinion. An opinion calls for discernment, judging, connecting the dots, what-have-you.....not just stating the obvious - that we don't have all the facts and until we have all the facts, we just won't know.

In my opinion, these charges are over the top. They are outrageous. To publicly prefer charges against SEALs for a possible punch to this terrorist is sending a message to all our troops: "Your leadership is more interested in their career than winning a war. You will be thrown under the bus at a mere hint of bending a ROE to protect yourself or a mere hint of not treating detainees with the utmost respect we would reserve for jaywalkers".

The leadership is weak. Casey opined about diversity after a radical muslim within his own military terrorized and murdered some of his own. obama didn't want us to jump to conclusions and refers to our military as a great photo-op. We have SEALs who are out of theatre, facing charges, and possible confinement because they "might" have bent a detainee rule.

A military that follows all imposed rules without discernment, judgement, and survival instincts is a military that shows weakness. Officers should be resigning in protest. Instead we have weak leadership who goes along with the current PC environment in hopes of keeping their careers.

News flash: the punishment may not just come from our own justice system. UNREAL: obama May Allow US Soldiers to be Tried in the Hague It's time for leadership to step up to the plate.
139 posted on 11/28/2009 6:16:32 AM PST by Girlene
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