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To: EternalVigilance
You don't want to have an intelligent conversation". You want to push your POV, which is your right, under the first amendment. It is my right to disagree. I don't need to hear the same screed over and over and over and...

I can certainly hold my own, but it's futile with insanity ruling the sandbox...

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145 posted on 11/28/2009 6:14:00 AM PST by WVKayaker (www.wherezobama.org / Obama's Excellent Adventure ...)
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To: WVKayaker
How can I be "wrong"? I've given her exact quote.

The question is, which other unalienable rights do you, and Mrs. Palin, think states have a "right" to alienate, other than the right of the innocent to live?

"No state shall...deprive any person of life...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

146 posted on 11/28/2009 6:20:30 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law." - The U.S. Constitution (TWICE))
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To: WVKayaker
If Massachusetts decided to make all children the property of the state, wouldn't your "logic" dictate that this would be perfectly fine?

If West Virginia decided all kayakers could be killed at will, that would be just dandy, and "constitutional," right?

If Illinois decided to ban all guns, that's not a problem from your standpoint, right?

If North Dakota decided to outlaw trial by jury, no problem, right?

Your position is ridiculous. It is the destruction of every premise of American republican self-government.

The purpose of government, all government, according to the framers of our government, is to protect unalienable rights.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men..."

147 posted on 11/28/2009 6:29:44 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law." - The U.S. Constitution (TWICE))
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To: WVKayaker

Is this a joke? Certain things can be very telling if not.


283 posted on 11/30/2009 11:27:51 AM PST by caww
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