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To: drellberg
Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I've read every post in this thread so far and you represent a singular MINORITY. You might argue that might and right are two entities and that one isn't justified by the other. To that I will point out that what's coming is an issue of force and right will have very little (if anything) to do with the outcome.

Go back through Jim's postings and notice that Jim has an established pattern of saying little, but then posting things that are well paying attention to. He tends to speak for a large number of people when he does write something such as the topic of this thread. For Jim to express his opinions (as we all do here) doesn't mean that the entire movement is shouting "go to hell" to the RINOs. In fact, the majority aren't saying anything. But the attitudes are there, the momentum is there, and the determination is there. Nobody from the large group that Jim represents is in a mood to negotiate, reach across the isle, or have anything to do with those considered enemies of conservatism. We're FINISHED with those best of the worst GOP picks which have been mentioned throughout this thread. This should be clear from what Jim wrote even though amazingly, some people here are still having trouble comprehending it.

However, Jim's attitude speaks for a multitude of usually very quiet people.

It was not wrong. Collaborating with our political enemies and fearful masses subscribing to RINO-ism has brought us to this point, and they need to now know that we think they can go to hell and we're not willing to waste any more time on them.

The definition of insanity is doing the same things, yet expecting a different result, which of course never occurs. Too many people have decided they're simply not doing this anymore. It produces NO results.

Challenge Jim to his method and then run your campaign here based on "Reaching out to RINOs and RINO Supporters". Jim has already established that his campaign is to simply tell them to "go to hell" and work toward propelling true conservatives into positions of leadership. Judging from the content of this thread, I'm going to say that almost nobody is going to agree with you.

Not only is Jim's logic sound, but as I've already mentioned, this isn't an issue of right, but rather of might, borne of exasperation from the truths which we've lived with from the time just prior to GWB leaving office, up until now.
629 posted on 11/27/2009 9:26:14 AM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: hiredhand

“I’ve read every post in this thread so far and you represent a singular MINORITY.”

Exactly. My only point, and one that I suspect may get me banned after nearly a decade of membership, is that I am a conservative who dissents on this occasion from the majority view.

I believe that there are tens or even hundreds of thousands of others who depend upon this site, as posters or lurkers, who don’t buy into every aspect of the conservative bedrock. I defer to Jim Robinson as to whether he wants to turn them away to the dozens of other sites that are every bit as conservative but in my opinion not as good and not with the potential that FR has to influence public opinion.

I dissent to his original post, which is my prerogative. If Jim Robinson intends to stifle dissent on this site, which seems to me what he is saying, then of course that is his prerogative. But he should be a big enough person to make his reasons clear; and he should do everyone a service and be less vague than in his original post regarding the nature of dissent that he will and won’t abide.

I really don’t think he wants to become a thought policeman, though, and I will be disappointed if he takes that line.


642 posted on 11/27/2009 9:38:32 AM PST by drellberg
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To: hiredhand
Nobody from the large group that Jim represents is in a mood to negotiate, reach across the isle, or have anything to do with those considered enemies of conservatism. We're FINISHED with those best of the worst GOP picks which have been mentioned throughout this thread.

Can't say I disagree. But I voted third party or write-in in 2000, 2004, and 2008 because in my opinion the Republican candidate was a reach-across-the-aisle RINO in each of those years. Would my advocacy of that position have been welcomed on FR?

The GOP nominating process is still front loaded with crossover primaries in liberal states. I'm prepared to walk away from the GOP candidate in 2012 if that process gives us another compromiser, and I trust that all the vocal posters on this thread will remember what they are committing to by what they say here today.

690 posted on 11/27/2009 10:13:32 AM PST by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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