[rintense]

You need to take better meds. Explain to me how Snowe, Collins and Scozzafava advance conservatism?

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

First, we have to eliminate Scozzy. She doesn't count for anything. I've said time and again, those responsible for this debacle are those Republicans in that district who voted for the county chairs who voted for Scozzy.

She was a disaster from the git go. Forget it. Done. Move on.

As far as the others, it matters if they had primary opponents. That is where we worry about getting rid of RINOS. After the primary, it's too late to worry about getting rid of them. After the primary, we MUST vote Republican to stop Dimocrats who are worse than RINOs.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

Explain to me how Snowe, Collins and Scozzafava advance conservatism?

I'll tell you how... Read this post. If the choice with Snowe and Collins is a 50% ACU rating versus a Leahy or Sanders or Kerry with a 5% ACU rating, I'll take Snowe and Collins every time.

NY23 was an aberration, in that there wasn't a primary. If there was, Collins would have won the primary and the results of the election would be different. Expect to see that happen in 2010.

You take the wins you can get, and you keep pushing to increase your margins. The way to replace Snowe and Collins is to recruit better, more conservative candidates to challenge them in the primaries, and hopefully win the primaries and become the new Senator.

But until that happens, I'd take Snowe and Collins every time over a Leahy or Kerry or Sanders. Win when you can, and work for bigger margins of victory in the future. NEVER turn down a win.