Source: SpaceWeather.com:
http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=25&month=11&year=2009
Posted on 11/26/2009 5:14:45 PM PST by KevinDavis
Welcome home!!
Too far south for the booms, beautiful to watch via tv. Five more...
I’m going to have to make it a point to see it launch before it is over...
Source: SpaceWeather.com:
http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=25&month=11&year=2009
You're the total joke, noob.
Among the things they are doing with the Space Station program is helping prepare astronauts for long durations of zero gravity. This will become important when we develop scientific and/or military bases on the Moon and/or travel to other planets (Moon has ~1/6th earth's gravity). Other nations, including Red China, also have plans for colonizing the Moon. We simply cannot allow them and other potential adversaries to do so unchecked.
Mars?? What a joke!! It is 200 degrees below zero and no oxygen . What are you going to do there ?- Farm??? Lets cut spending and create jobs ( not make work for geeks) . Let other people pay for this folly!!
Now that is new! China is going to put military bases on the moon ( you better hope they don’t put one in California) folks. Who are they going to fight there? Flash Gordon? Wake up . You are in dream state. The Moon is a lifeless rock in total vacuum. no oxygen and no water. No nothing.
I can refute that too...The moon is a stable orbiting satellite that is ideal to build the ship or ships necessary to explore Mars and the rest of the system and Galaxy. It has low gravity which is much better then none, and it has water which is required for fuel production and other things.
That is what the moon will give us, and there is future mining there as well.
From Forbes.com, 2007...
China Shoots For The Moon
[excerpt]
A manned flight to the moon would be next, and 2020 is the target date that has appeared in press reports. CNSA's Sun has also talked of eventual colonization. China sees a moon base as a stepping stone to the exploration of Mars and deep space.
The U.S., Japan and India are all planning lunar launches over the next 18 months. China is not a member of the 16-nation consortium building an international space station expected to be completed by 2010. The U.S., for one, is unsure if it wants China in or out.
Beijing, anyway, has plans for a space station of its own. Its whole space program, though started in the 1950s with Soviet assistance, is now being developed with homegrown technology, unlike other industries for which it has happily imported foreign technology and expertise via joint ventures.
China's space program was put under the auspices of the CNSA, a civilian agency that is part of the ministry-level Commission of Science Technology and Industry for National Defense, in the early 1990s, when Beijing decided to create a hybrid aerospace and defense industry on the American pattern of contractors like Boeing (nyse: BA - news - people ), Lockheed Martin (nyse: LMT - news - people ) and Raytheon (nyse: RTN - news - people ) sitting at the center of a web of civilian and military subcontractors.
Previously, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) ran the space program and had concentrated on producing ballistic missiles rather than satellites and satellite launch vehicles.
The military remains close to the space program, however. Yang, a lieutenant colonel, was feted last month during the PLA's 80th-anniversary celebrations.
China repeatedly says publicly that it is interested in the peaceful exploration of space. It is still far behind the U.S. (see "The Future For NASA"). A Chinese astronaut has yet to do a spacewalk, for example.
But it is running hard to catch up, and not everyone is comfortable with the fact it is now shooting for the moon. China's "rapid and relatively smooth rise an emerging space power," the U.S. Defense Department noted in its annual report to Congress on China last year, "could serve as a key enabler for regional power projection."
Source: China Shoots For The Moon
http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/14/notn-china-aerospace-oped-cx_pm_0814notn.html
Mining what? Red dust?
"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"
--both statements made by B.H. Obama on the campaign trail, 2008
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2008 Pentagon Report (March 2008):
China's Growing Military Space Power
By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008
GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.
Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.
Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."
To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], see U.S. Dept of Defense:
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf
What a joke. Your opinion doesn’t refute the fact that the moon is a lifeless rock. Mars is a lifeless rock. I don’t want to spend one more dime on this nonsense-— or rather spend my grand kids $BILLIONS!!!
Who can possibly care?? They can have the damned thing and please pay us for going there in 67 and I want interest!!
I have to add that you forgot that the self serving statement by Nasa on water was a total lie!! How much water?? where is that estimate? Those are simply people that want government money to live another lie. What a joke!
By Peter N. Spotts
THE CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR
November 26, 2009
NASA’s mission to crash a rocket into a crater to find water on the moon found it – and much more. Scientists with NASA’s LCROSS mission, which sent an impactor hurtling into Cabeus Crater on Oct. 9, say their results turned up a significant amount of water in the plume of material the crash kicked up.
Lunar Water Probably Came From Comets
by Staff Writers
Nov 27, 2009
In a discovery that may solve the mystery behind the source of moon’s water, an evidence from NASA’s LCROSS mission suggested that much of it was delivered by comets that slammed into the Earth’s satellite billions of years ago.
Previous missions had also found hints of lunar water but its source was never clear. One idea is that it forms when hydrogen atoms from the solar wind latch onto oxygen atoms in the lunar soil, creating hydroxyl and water.
According to the data revealed recently at the Lunar Exploration Analysis Group meeting, a gathering of 160 lunar scientists in Houston, the evidence is mounting in favour of an alternative explanation - comet impacts.
The first line of evidence comes from compounds that vaporise readily, called volatiles. LCROSS found spectral signs of volatiles containing carbon and hydrogen - likely methane and ethanol - as well as others such as ammonia and carbon dioxide, journal New Scientist reported.
“It appears that we impacted into a very volatile-rich area,” LCROSS principal scientist Tony Colaprete said.
These compounds should have been mostly lost to space billions of years ago, when the moon coalesced from the debris of an impact between the Earth and a Mars-sized object.
Water formed through an interaction with the solar wind would therefore be relatively pure - and free of volatiles.
But comets, which are thought to have been responsible for many of the moon’s impact scars, are “dirty iceballs” known to contain volatiles such as methane.
http://www.moondaily.com/reports/Lunar_Water_Probably_Came_From_Comets_999.html
there is a bunch of methane alright. Just no water
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