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To: PJ-Comix

This is very poorly written or Maybe i haven’t had enough coffee this morning. i don’t understand what Holdren did.


11 posted on 11/26/2009 5:40:47 AM PST by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
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To: fatrat
See if this helps....

John Holdren also involved in CRU e-mails

Paging Glenn Beck...

14 posted on 11/26/2009 5:44:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Voter fraud is treason.)
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To: fatrat

The two physicists who brought up the facts about the Medieval Warming period (when there were wineries in Great Britain) were mocked and derided by Holdren because their observations did not fit in with the idea we are now in the period of the greatest global warming in human history.


29 posted on 11/26/2009 6:02:20 AM PST by PJ-Comix ("They spent a trillion dollars on a guess?" ---Astute DUmmie observation)
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To: fatrat

Plenty of other sources on the net for the Holden connection, search holden + CRU + climate = 100k responses.


37 posted on 11/26/2009 6:12:17 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: fatrat

You are right on target. A scandal will go unreported if someone cannot synthesize it down to he/she did this (obviously bad thing).

He has got to show how the White House science czar discredited the sound science of credible scientists. He has got to keep it simple.

He should establish the credibility of the scientists in one sentence. Then show how their data was altered, distorted, ridiculed or removed in one or two sentences. Then he has got to show how bogus data was substituted to further the political agenda of planet warming apologists.

This should all be stated in the first paragraph. Then if time and need requires go into all the intricate details of how this was accomplished. But again be straight forward and clear.

This author flew all over the map to make his case and confused everyone. He wound up making people wonder if anything wrong really occurred. JMHO.


50 posted on 11/26/2009 6:24:29 AM PST by daviscupper (.)
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To: fatrat; PJ-Comix

This is very poorly written...

It needs a flow chart to lead the reader from one reference to another reference. There are too many descending quotes, like a multigenerational genealogy chart, which make totally obscure the actual proofs of the accusation against Holdren.

PJ knew what he was trying to communicate, but it did not transfer to the article in an understandable fashion.

The link to the American Thinker article is valuable.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/crus_source_code_climategate_r.html


85 posted on 11/26/2009 7:25:14 AM PST by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: fatrat

I agree with fatrat. What is the connection here to Holdren? I am quite open to believing that the administration is involved in many nefarious ways, but it seems like Tim Ball is just making a vague, unverifiable statement. We will see if anything further comes of it.


169 posted on 11/27/2009 4:10:28 AM PST by Old_Grouch (62 and AARP-free)
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