1 posted on
11/25/2009 6:02:10 PM PST by
tobyhill
To: tobyhill
Smeared with their own words.
That’s becoming a common defense.
2 posted on
11/25/2009 6:04:02 PM PST by
cripplecreek
(Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
To: tobyhill; Nervous Tick; 4horses+amule; WL-law; Fractal Trader; Beowulf; Genesis defender; ...
3 posted on
11/25/2009 6:05:04 PM PST by
steelyourfaith
(Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
To: tobyhill
Poor, poor babies. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
4 posted on
11/25/2009 6:07:08 PM PST by
RushIsMyTeddyBear
(I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
To: tobyhill
"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," For certain somebody is trying to "confuse" the public.
"Confuse" New euphemism for screw.
5 posted on
11/25/2009 6:09:56 PM PST by
Graybeard58
("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
To: tobyhill
First of all, it isn't a "smear" when you're impaled by your own words and claims. Refusal to honor a FOI request in Great Britain is a felony, and all of those emails *should* have been freely available. In fact, Phil Jones was told he shouldn't be deleting such emails. He's since been caught lying about the matter (on record in 2008 saying he deleted emails, 11/24/2009 denying he's ever deleted anything).
The only two linchpins of AGW are:
1) The reconstructed paleoclimate record claiming unusual warming in present times.
2) The IPCC climate models that claim human greenhouse gasses are an important forcing of global climate.
From everything I've seen so far, both are incorrect, and possibly represent outright fraud.
To: tobyhill
"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public......and that's OUR job, dammit!"
7 posted on
11/25/2009 6:11:17 PM PST by
Texas Eagle
(If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
To: tobyhill
I don’t see where the global warming alarmists have any other option but to try and fight this.
They really don’t have a way to save face in light of these new revelations and they are facing the probability of total academic disgrace and for many, economic ruin should the global warming bubble burst.
I’d be suprised if they had a different response.
To: tobyhill
If your data is truly scientific, then the smear campaign will just reinforce your point.
10 posted on
11/25/2009 6:14:39 PM PST by
The_Victor
(If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
To: tobyhill
Well, they *are* in Britain where a true report which destroys someone’s reputation is considered libel.
Of course, us Yanks (and I use that the way Brits and Aussies do, so no offense to those of you whose ancestors resisted The War of Northern Aggression) don’t have to accept that notion of libel or smear.
But the e-mails aren’t the really d*mning thing: scientists are catty with those who uphold competing theories. The comments in the FORTRAN code prove there was fraud.
11 posted on
11/25/2009 6:17:17 PM PST by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: tobyhill
I'll buy frogs "still running the muck" but . . .
13 posted on
11/25/2009 6:20:42 PM PST by
Misterioso
(The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
To: tobyhill
14 posted on
11/25/2009 6:22:21 PM PST by
blueyon
(It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
To: tobyhill
LOL @ ‘running the muck’.
15 posted on
11/25/2009 6:32:58 PM PST by
jra
To: tobyhill
Was this an editorial? Sure reads like one.
16 posted on
11/25/2009 6:37:14 PM PST by
willk
To: tobyhill
Now there is a great example of propagandizing. There is no fact checking, no semblance or reporting balance, and really no logic. Pure propaganda, that is all those bastards have. They HAVE to lie because truth is not their friend.
18 posted on
11/25/2009 6:43:47 PM PST by
Wpin
(I do not regret my admiration for W)
To: tobyhill
I dont see where the global warming alarmists have any other option but to try and fight this.
You think Obamacare has been a dirty fight, you ain't seen nothing yet. The left have gone “all in” on global warming. A defeat would be worse for them then any global warming scenario.
19 posted on
11/25/2009 7:01:55 PM PST by
Huskrrrr
To: tobyhill
Carp like watching cockroaches fleeing en masse.
23 posted on
11/25/2009 7:40:01 PM PST by
cranked
To: tobyhill
This is a "smear campaign to distract the public," said Mann. "Those opposed to climate action, simply don't have the science on their side," he added. . . . The vital point being left out, he said, is that "regardless of how cherry-picked," there is "absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into the question the deep level of consensus of climate change."
Of course there is "absolutely nothing in any of the emails that calls into the question the deep level of consensus of climate change." Bernard Madoff was deeply committed, too. That's always true of the conspirators in any successful fraud.
27 posted on
11/26/2009 5:27:38 AM PST by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(Anyone who claims to be objective marks himself as hopelessly subjective.)
To: tobyhill
Thus we see the problem inherent in any advocacy science trying to gage the importance of their own issue.
Hire an “Air Quality Expert” for 100,000 a year.
Then ask him... “Do you think air quality is a problem?”
Do you think he is going to say “Not really, air quality has been improving over the last decade.”?
Or is he going to say “The longterm effects of many of these pollutants has never been gaged and we must be ever vigilant....”
28 posted on
11/26/2009 5:37:08 AM PST by
allmendream
(Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
To: tobyhill
“Global warming is manmade, all right. It’s made by men in lab coats who angle for government grants by fudging the data. “
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