Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Interesting apologetics. I especially like the way he implies that those who are concerned about the validity of the data are not engaging in reasonable debate -- that, and the emphasis upon establishing a security system which can't be hacked.
1 posted on 11/24/2009 9:09:55 PM PST by 4horses+amule
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 last
To: 4horses+amule; All
Why You Should Be Hot and Bothered About 'Climate-gate'
FoxNews.com ^ | November 24, 2009 | John Lott

Computer hackers have obtained 160 megabytes of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in England. These e-mails, which have now been confirmed as real, involved many researchers across the globe with ideologically similar advocates around the world. They were brazenly discussing the destruction and hiding of data that did not support global warming claims. The academics here also worked closely with the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Professor Phil Jones, the head of the Climate Research Unit, and Professor Michael Mann at Pennsylvania State University, who has been an important scientist in the climate debate, have come under particular scrutiny.

Among his e-mails, Professor Jones talks to Professor Mann about the "trick of adding in the real temps to each series...to hide the decline [in temperature]."..."

Another professor at the Climate Research Unit, Tim Osborn, discusses in e-mails how truncating a data series can hide a cooling trend that would otherwise be seen in the results. Professor Mann sent Professor Osborn an e-mail saying that the results he is sending shouldn't be shown to others because the results support critics of global warming. Time after time the discussions refer to hiding or destroying data. ..."

Lots more at link...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

76 posted on 11/25/2009 7:52:19 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I am the great and powerful Oz"
79 posted on 11/25/2009 8:43:06 AM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule
Here's a link to a commentary I wrote on Climategate:

Post Climategate, How Long Will “They” Allow the Rouse to Continue?

The Anthopegenic Global Warming theory is the biggest hoax that's ever been perpetrated.

80 posted on 11/25/2009 8:51:10 AM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule

Rush is covering this right now.


82 posted on 11/25/2009 9:12:33 AM PST by opentalk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule
CRU’s peer-reviewed publications are consistent with, and have contributed to, the overwhelming scientific consensus that the climate is being strongly influenced by human activity

Main Entry: con·sen·sus
Pronunciation: \kən-ˈsen(t)-səs\
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Latin, from consentire
Date: 1843
1 a : general agreement : unanimity
b : the judgment arrived at by most of those concerned (the consensus was to go ahead)
2 : group solidarity in sentiment and belief

Here's the gotcha, CONSENSUS does not mean proof only the there was an agreement among a group to agree. I'm sure the Nazis had a consensus about ethnicity and the KKK a consensus about race but in no way does consensus imply truth or proof.

92 posted on 11/25/2009 8:49:43 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule

In essence they are saying their own emails are BS. What then should we make of their “science”—???

Funny. “Climatologist” seesm to be code speak for “total liar.”


99 posted on 11/26/2009 1:33:03 PM PST by PaleoBob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule
"There is nothing in the stolen material which indicates that peer-reviewed publications by CRU, and others, on the nature of global warming and related climate change are not of the highest-quality of scientific investigation and interpretation."

Like bl**dy h*ll there isn't. The comments and code showing that they substituted temperature measurements from weather stations for tree ring data when the actual tree ring data didn't support their pre-conceived notions are not scientific investigations of any quality, not interpretation, but outright fraud.

The fact that the temperature measurements and tree rings didn't correspond should, if these were honest scientists, have been the basis for reconsidering the use of tree growth ring data as a proxy for temperature at all.

100 posted on 11/26/2009 5:11:00 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule

It’s time to clean the septic tank.


101 posted on 11/26/2009 5:17:09 PM PST by votemout
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: 4horses+amule
"Professor Trevor Davies" is an unethical hack who neglects to inform you that the "peer-review" process consists of cynically trading papers back and forth within a small leftwing circle-jerk among the den of thieves he calls his "faculty."
102 posted on 11/27/2009 5:53:37 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson