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I'm pretty much of the belief that the universe is sufficiently "wired" that such things can spring, unbidden, and self-organize. ------- That's a bigger reach than intelligent design.

Not really: in cosmology it's called "the anthropic principle". There are just too many 'coincidences' and fine-tuned constants in the laws of physics that are necessary for anything like life to arise. These point so strongly toward design at the fundamental level, that atheistic materialists have abandoned both Occam's Razor and the Popperian standard of falsifiability, and posited the "multiverse", an infinitude of other (necessarily unobservable, and therefore both unfalsifiable and unverifiable) universes so that ours can just happen to be one of the rare ones suitable for life, to avoid the conclusion that the universe in toto was designed to support life.

"My ways are not thy ways saith the Lord." Our way to make something complex is to design it by hand. It seems His was is to grow it.

Once you have a well-designed environment, yes, the Darwinian mechanism can give rise to novel complex structures. We've even mastered the trick for ourselves: inside a digital computer with software specifically made for the purpose, novel, useful, complex algorithms can be evolved by a Darwinian mechanism (Google "evolutionary algorithms"). Absent a well-designed environment, you don't even get self-reproducing systems of any sort, so Darwinism doesn't even have anything to apply itself to.

17 posted on 11/24/2009 7:52:18 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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The "Multiverse" concept doesn't lead to the conclusion you propose for it. In fact, with the "Multiverse" all things are possible, one of which is a Creator God ~ even a pantheon of gods somewhere ~ for an instant.

Once you get a Creator God, that's the end of the discussion.

You will find that the anti-God crowd really doesn't want to pursue further examination of the "Multiverse".

Which raises a question ~ why are you now aligned with the Atheists?

72 posted on 11/25/2009 4:29:53 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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